The Wuhan Clan - Tony Holohan's Having a House Party

[Julio_Geordio]

@TreatyStones

This fella knew

Prof McConkey has been bang on from the start cc @Bandage

[gaillimhmick]

@Lazarus

What schools are open?

All are online in the secondary sector.

[Dziekanowski]

@Bandage

But she’s developed a Bressie-like state of anxiety about the whole thing despite being very fond of the folk she minds.

This crisis could cure anxiety for sufferers like Bressie because they’ll have something to concentrate their minds on - staying alive.

But it will give anxiety to a lot more people who were previously not suffering from it because of the possibility of dying and seeing other people die.

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

I’d trust the Korean and Italian numbers. Italy has a shitshow too with overwhelmed health system which could easially happen here

[anon60384913]

@Dziekanowski care to take this one?

[eoghanruadha]

@TreatyStones

You will have thousands of bar staff looking to sign on tomorrow morning. Along a pile of other hospitality industry staff. The offices wont be able to cope.

Added to the 30,000 childcare staff and a significant number of support staff such as cleaners and catering staff who would have been contracted through private companies to work in school and colleges.

[iron_mike]

@Bandage

…her place hasn’t - and it would place a huge burden on affected families to close down as the unit offers support / structure / activities for users (as well as respite to families).But she’s developed a Bressie-like state of anxiety about the whole thing despite being very fond of the folk she minds.

@Bandage

Aside from @Batigol, us anyone here working in a front line role? And are you getting increasingly nervous about having ongoing contact with people while the rest of the country is gradually shutting down?

My sister works in a day care unit for people with severe disabilities. The service users in many cases are incapable of observing the coughing/sneezing etiquette and lots of them have compromised immune systems.

AFAIK, such places haven’t been included in the shut down list - well her place hasn’t - and it would place a huge burden on affected families to close down as the unit offers support / structure / activities for users (as well as respite to families).

But she’s developed a Bressie-like state of anxiety about the whole thing despite being very fond of the folk she minds.

I’m in 4 or 5 supermarkets a day. Wont be grounded for a while yet

[myboyblue]

@anon78624367

… the human recovery is going to be harder.The grief is going to be almost crippling, if things get bad here then people will die without funeral or wake.The front line services are going to need to make decisions on who lives and who diesThere is going to be an awful lot of misery if the worst happens

You’re very fatalistic about all of this. You’re tormenting yourself over something that if it happens will torment you then and if it doesn’t won’t torment you at all. I’m not being an arsehole, I just don’t see the point of being so fatalistic. We can only do what we can do, personal responsibility, the rest is out of our hands.

[Batigol]

My rough calculation ms mean that if we match China’s death rate, we will end up with 109 deaths. Obviously terrible but, unfortunately I think most people would bite your hand off for it.

And China is a much more densely populated country than us, with poorer hygiene standards. On that score, we don’t seem too bad (again, relatively speaking)

However, china may not be telling the truth. And, even if they are, the Chinese government can probably resort to much more heavy handed measures than a western democracy in order to contain this

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

@Batigol

If China are telling the truth…

Have you ever delth with the chinese professional. Never a problem with there side always blaming someone else not matter what facts you give them. Denial is in their culture

[ciarancareyshurlingarmy]

Best of luck Mike, at least the roads will be quiet. I spent 10 years in distribution and logistics (JB) and have a fair idea of the pressure you lads will be under in Dunnes this week.

[gaillimhmick]

Lads, I sick to the teeth telling ye, The real numbers in China are x50 times what’s reported.

[Dziekanowski]

China’s numbers as far as I know are largely accurate but things are far from getting back to normal yet and the probablity of the disease popping back up very much exists. They have been in full lockdown. They built two 1000 bed hospitals in a week. Our lockdown will not be on that scale.

Buying time is of the essence. We have to hope alternative treatments could yet prove somewhat effective.

Sadly I fully believe we are heading for an Italy situation.

[Dziekanowski]

@Heyyoubehindthebushes

I’d trust the Korean and Italian numbers. Italy has a shitshow too with overwhelmed health system which could easially happen here

277 ICU beds? It’s going to happen. And it’s going to happen in Britain too.

[Midshipman_Asha]

@anon78624367

… the human recovery is going to be harder.The grief is going to be almost crippling, if things get bad here then people will die without funeral or wake.The front line services are going to need to make decisions on who lives and who diesThere is going to be an awful lot of misery if the worst happens

The medical personnel in Italy will definitely have PTSD from the decisions they’ve had to make

[iron_mike]

I get the distinct impression that it’s only today and with the announcement regarding pubs , reality is finally setting in a cross the country.

[anon78624367]

@myboyblue

…ll of this. You’re tormenting yourself over something that if it happens will torment you then and if it doesn’t won’t torment you at all. I’m not being an arsehole, I just don’t see the point of being so fatalistic. We can only do what we can do, personal responsibility, the rest is out of our hands.

It has and is happening

[Dziekanowski]

@myboyblue

You’re very fatalistic about all of this. You’re tormenting yourself over something that if it happens will torment you then and if it doesn’t won’t torment you at all. I’m not being an arsehole, I just don’t see the point of being so fatalistic. We can only do what we can do, personal responsibility, the rest is out of our hands.

Everybody needs to torment themselves for a while over what could happen. Because if we don’t, it’ll definitely happen.

[anon60384913]

Better be safe than sorry.

[dodgy_keeper]

Have the Chinese even offered a token apology for causing this disaster?