The Wuhan Clan - Tony Holohan's Having a House Party

Is Ianā€™s father a presbyterian minister or the likes?
The Indo had a spectacular on him one saturday

TUM is the obvious one to attack here.

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Simon Harris saying decision is up to IRFU if they want to cancel game or not ā€¦

Smart move from Mr Harris :joy:

Could we let the game go ahead and then lock all these rubby supporters in once the game starts? A month in a tent in Lansdowne road would sort all these FFG voters right out.

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Youā€™d forget about the oul Zika virus, all the same.

Theres the leadership our country needsā€¦ffs

Noone will take responsibility now and there will be no chance of a second election to identify who should take responsibility

What a litany of idiocy, incompetence and delusion. Donā€™t expect simpletons like @Enrique, @anon7035031, @Tim_Riggins and @balbec to acknowledge reality though. At least one of them has already told us that the best way to deal with all this is to flat out lie.

Deflect, deflect, deflect!

Trumpā€™s flailing incompetence makes coronavirus even scarier

Americaā€™s pandemic response capabilities have been systematically dismantled.

By Matthew Yglesias@mattyglesiasmatt@vox.com Feb 25, 2020, 9:00am EST

Late last week, the US government overruled objections from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to put 14 coronavirus-infected Americans on an airplane with other healthy people.

The Trump administration swiftly leaked that the president was mad about this decision, and that nobody told him about it at the time. That could be true (or not ā€” Trump and his team lie about things all the time). But even if it is true, itā€™s a confession of a stunning level of incompetence. The president is so checked out that heā€™s not in the loop even on critical decisions and is making excuses for himself after the fact.

Resolving interagency disagreements is his job. But Trump has never shown any real interest or aptitude for his job, something that used to loom large as an alarming aspect of his administration. That fear has faded into the background now that the US has gone years without many major domestic crises (the disasters and failed response in Puerto Rico being a big exception).

The Covid-19 outbreak, however, is a reminder that it remains a scary world and that the American government deals with a lot of important, complicated challenges that arenā€™t particularly ideological in nature. And we have no reason to believe the current president is up to the job. Trump not only hasnā€™t personally involved himself in the details of coronavirus response (apparently too busy pardoning former Celebrity Apprentice guests), he also hasnā€™t designated anyone to be in charge.

Infectious disease response necessarily involves balancing a range of considerations from throughout government public health agencies and critical aspects of economic and foreign policy. Thatā€™s why in fall 2014, the Obama administration appointed Ron Klain to serve as ā€œEbola czarā€ ā€” a single official in charge of coordinating the response across the government. Trump has, so far, put nobody in charge, even though itā€™s already clear that because of the coronavirusā€™s effect on major Asian economies, the virus is going to be a bigger deal for Americans.

The Trump administration has asked Congress for $2.5 billion in emergency funding to fight the outbreak. But this is just a fig leaf. The reality is this administration keeps trying to ā€” and at times does ā€” slash funding for relevant government programs.

Trump keeps slashing pandemic response

In 2005, during the H1N5 bird flu scare, the US Agency for International Development ran a program called Predict to identify and research infectious diseases in animal populations in the developing world. Most new viruses that impact humans ā€” apparently including the one causing the Covid-19 disease ā€” emerge through this route, so investing in early research is the kind of thing that, at modest ongoing cost, served to reduce the likelihood of rare but catastrophic events.

The program was initiated under George W. Bush and continued through Barack Obamaā€™s eight years in office; then, last fall the Trump administration shut it down.

Thatā€™s part of a broader pattern of actual and potential Trump efforts to shut down Americaā€™s ability to respond to pandemic disease.

As it happens, the Covid-19 problem arose from China, rather than from Africa, where the programs Trump shut down were working. But now that containment in China seems to have failed, the next big global risk is that the virus will spread to countries that have weaker public health infrastructure, from which it will spread uncontrollably ā€” exactly the sort of countries where Trump has scaled back assistance.

Meanwhile, to the extent Trump has done anything in the midst of the crisis, his predominant focus seems to have been on reassuring financial markets, rather than on addressing the public health issue.

Trump picked a strange time to turn globalist

Austria, which borders northern Italy, is looking at reimposing border controls in light of the Covid-19 outbreak in several towns near Milan. Israel has taken action to bar all foreign nationals who have been to South Korea and Japan in the past 14 days from entering the country ā€” adding to an existing ban on visitors from China.

The Israeli response, so far, is a bit of an outlier and perhaps has gone too far.

Still, itā€™s a bit strange that Donald Trump of all people has done so little to restrict travel at this point ā€” you can book a direct flight from Beijing to Los Angeles tomorrow for $680 while Trump is busy expanding his anti-Muslim travel ban and crippling refugee resettlement based on made-up terrorism concerns.

Trumpā€™s only public statements about this growing crisis are a weeks-old series of tweets in which he expressed confidence in Chinese leadership and said the problem would go away when the weather gets warmer. (Scientists say that may not be true.)

Now that the stock market is potentially crashing on coronavirus fears, maybe Trump will try to rouse himself to do something rather than underreacting for the sake of the Dow. But the biggest problem with Trump is itā€™s far from clear he really can pull himself together to do the job.

Trump is busy corrupting the American government

Over the past week, when the breakdown of some containment measures became known, Trump was busy replacing his director of national intelligence with an unqualified political hack who will also simultaneously serve as ambassador to Germany. Itā€™s bad to have unqualified people in key roles, but the reason Trump did it is worse ā€” Richard Grenell was installed after his predecessor Joseph Maguire got fired for briefing Congress about intelligence regarding Russian activities and the 2020 presidential election.

Trump felt the contents of Maguireā€™s briefing were politically embarrassing to him, and therefore wanted the information withheld.

Thatā€™s typical of Trumpā€™s approach to governance ā€” he sees the entire executive branch as essentially his personal staff, whose only obligation is to advance his personal interests.

But in a crisis, it can be good for the country for embarrassing information to come to light if thatā€™s what it takes to provoke a stronger and more accurate response. Trump, however, has clearly signaled he does not think this is the right way to do things. Consequently, in the middle of the crisis, Trumpā€™s national security adviser went on Sunday shows to smear Sen. Bernie Sanders, rather than provide credible information about the international situation to the public.

Trump is also busy having his Customs and Border Protection officials wield airport security as a tactical weapon against the population of New York when these are the people who weā€™ll need to screen travelers.

More broadly, Trump has a well-deserved reputation for dishonesty and has acted over the years to clean house of any officials (James Mattis, Dan Coats, etc.) who develop a reputation for contradicting him. Itā€™s almost impossible to know how this administration could convey accurate and credible information to Americans in a crisis even if it wanted to.

The country has thus far muddled through with Trump at the helm better than Americans had any right to hope, but the emergence of the occasional crisis is a constant in government. And with the world on the brink of a potential disaster, itā€™s terrifying to contemplate the reality that the man in charge just isnā€™t up to the job.

A crafty use of the #coronavirus tag here

https://twitter.com/janet6716/status/1232630547555536901

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I canā€™t really see how this is going to fight the virus, but look, we should explore all avenues.

Half the US troops in Korea have died from this.

Positive test for first case in Brasil. 61 year old man who had been in Lombardy recently.

cc @Tank

Italian lady in work there came over for a chat and I hunted her.

Iā€™m doing my bit lads.

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Itā€™s hard to keep on top of all the new cases. It will be practically world wide by the weekend.

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In all seeriousness, I dont think it matters which country or area is affected today. If it has travelled from China it will be everywhere in weeks.

Whether or not some lad has been in a hotel in Tenerife or skiing in Italy is irrelevant in my view. Its a matter of time now, whilst I appreciate the effort to contain and minimalise.

Government and Health Service here are totally unprepared for an outbreak. If they knew what they were at theyd have a plan for assessments at ports and airports by now. Let alone sanitisation requirments coming in and out.

They should also be trying to reserve space in hospitals and ramp up contingency to ensure they can cater for any significant number of patients in 2-3 week cycles.

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This is the major thing. Hospitals are already at capacity. We simply dont have enough beds or ventilators.

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Yea agreed. And then you have Harris making a bigger wanker of himself with ridiculouse statements.

He will not take responsibility in an interim role. Thats a certainty. How many people do a good job when theyre about to leave an organisation?

He could leave a pile of shit for someone taking on the role.

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Have ye invoked yeā€™re BCP plans yet?

As opposed to the efficiently running, well-oiled machine that is the HSE?