Things I learned today (Part 1)

[TreatyStones]

It was in Duncannon this young man died
And in Duncannon his body lies
And you good people that do pass by
Oh shed a tear for the Croppy Boy

[croppy_boy]

@TreatyStones

It was in Duncannon this young man died
And in Duncannon his body lies
And you good people that do pass by
Oh shed a tear for the Croppy Boy

They played this at the 'aul fella’s funeral last June, it was one of his many, many favourite songs.

It’s been bringing a tear to the eye ever since…this might have been helped by the introduction of Croppy Junior the second and the subsequent lack of sleep however.

[TreatyStones]

@croppy_boy

They played this at the 'aul fella’s funeral last June, it was one of his many, many favourite songs.

It’s a class song. My favourite from the era.

[croppy_boy]

@TreatyStones

It’s a class song. My favourite from the era.

Kelly from Killane is a personal favourite and The Boys of Wexford.

[backinatracksuit]

I prefer (well I know) the Geneva Barracks (Good men and true) version, my grandmother used to get me to sing that for her as a garsoon

[myboyblue]

Brian Watson (brianwatson80)

[flattythehurdler]

@TreatyStones

…he term “Daylight Robbery” originated in Ireland.The English put a tax on any windows over a certain amount and size. This resulted in people building cottages with very small windows and bricking up windows in existing dwelling. This meant the cottages were robbed of daylight and the phrase was born.

I had a very interesting exchange with @chocolatemice about this, God rest his esoul.
I sent him pictures of a couple of old cottages on my bit of land asking were they famine era.
As they had two front windows, he said if they were, they were wealthier types, for exactly this reason.
That’s a great think to find out, thanks. Like by hook or by crook cc @Fagan_ODowd

[flattythehurdler]

@johnnysachs

…Someone was telling me the origins of by hook or by crook recently. Apparently it came from Oliver Cromwells time in Ireland when Waterford in particular was putting up a tough resistance. He was trying to find a way through and hook was supposed to mean by Sea and crook was taken to mean by land.

Fagan posted that here before. I always thought it was a shepherd phrase

[Elvis_Brandenberg_Kr]

Kelly from Killane is a noble tune. Along with The Minstrel Boy it always brings back memories of the Munster championship when I was a young fella. The pipe band blasting it out, the smell of pipe tobacco all around you and the repellent epidermis of the supporter from Tipperary or Clare.

[croppy_boy]

Remember walking up to Thurles for one of the League finals in 93 and Dad fan-boying over the Pecker Dunne (I think) who was busking.

[croppy_boy]

‘Twas in Duncannon this boy was tried,
In Geneva Barracks, his body lies’

That’s the one I grew up with also.

[Halfpipe]

@TreatyStones

…he term “Daylight Robbery” originated in Ireland.The English put a tax on any windows over a certain amount and size. This resulted in people building cottages with very small windows and bricking up windows in existing dwelling. This meant the cottages were robbed of daylight and the phrase was born.

I was always told the joists in the house I was born in were taken from a long gone old estate house a few miles away. The number of windows in it meant the owner couldn’t afford the tax and so twas knocked, as we were relations some of the bits were sent over to us.

[TreatyStones]

@Halfpipe

I was always told the joists in the house I was born in were taken from a long gone old estate house a few miles away. The number of windows in it meant the owner couldn’t afford the tax and so twas knocked, as we were relations some of the bits were sent over to us.

There was also a roof tax at some stage, which resulted in the roofs being removed from a lot of the old estate houses.

[ciarancareyshurlingarmy]

Roofs were removed from a number of large houses in 40s/50s/60s to avoid paying rates

[Massey]

Isnt that why there’s no roof on Dromore?

[TreatyStones]

That’s what happened to Dromore Castle in the 50’s. An awful shame.

[KinvarasPassion]

Murtyheartlick is 90

[TreatyStones]

I know someone who will be absolutely seething at a physio giving exercise advice

[Massey]

He must be worth a fortune

[balbec]

Fine bit of grass there