[quote=“Rocko, post: 897988, member: 1”]I’m not shiteing on about anything Art and I’m disappointed you’re taking everything to heart so much.
If I were you I’d get plastic surgery concentrate on just one story and take it from there. This bouncing around pretending to be involved in big criminal cases where the perp beat the rap, and then running away from that a moment later and confessing you’re not a solicitor and not qualified at anything and don’t have anything to do with criminal law and these guys have nothing to do with heroin anyway… look it comes across as a little all manic and it worries me.
We all get how much you enjoy hinting at being a high flying legal eagle but at this stage it’s a bit like facehop - it just doesn’t work anymore with people who have been here for a while and know better. Adding in the right wing pro-business, anti-worker, intolerant mouthpiece persona is a good backstory to your high powered legal job but when one falls apart then the other starts to look a little desperate too.
That’s my advice, I don’t expect you to like it (or heed it) but I’d rather be honest with you and at least I can say I tried to help.[/quote]
thanks for your input.
rather than spend any of my time dealing with your misrepresentation and outright lies above i can only offer you the same advice that vinny browne offered enda kenny: room chair whiskey, revolver…
If you were neglected so badly as a baby you had to eat shit, sexually abused for 8 years or thrown against a kitchen top so hard by your parent it looked you were in a car crash it means an increased likelihood of ending up a junkie.
No kid is born a feral rat. We are all a product of our home environment.
Once adults or even adolescents they are hateful horrible creatures and it is almost impossible to feel sympathy for them and or any empathy for their behaviour.
It is going to get worse (look at UK) because only people on benefits have children without calculating a financial cost. As a society we tolerate the shit until it spills over into our own world.
Ultimately you have to stop the kids being born through draconian measures in cutting off or limiting benefits and nobody is ready for that…yet.
[quote=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 898010, member: 2272”]If you were neglected so badly as a baby you had to eat shit, sexually abused for 8 years or thrown against a kitchen top so hard by your parent it looked you were in a car crash it means an increased likelihood of ending up a junkie.
No kid is born a feral rat. We are all a product of our home environment.
Once adults or even adolescents they are hateful horrible creatures and it is almost impossible to feel sympathy for them and or any empathy for their behaviour.
It is going to get worse (look at UK) because only people on benefits have children without calculating a financial cost. As a society we tolerate the shit until it spills over into our own world.
Ultimately you have to stop the kids being born through draconian measures in cutting off or limiting benefits and nobody is ready for that…yet.[/quote]
I am.
[quote=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 898010, member: 2272”]If you were neglected so badly as a baby you had to eat shit, sexually abused for 8 years or thrown against a kitchen top so hard by your parent it looked you were in a car crash it means an increased likelihood of ending up a junkie.
No kid is born a feral rat. We are all a product of our home environment.
Once adults or even adolescents they are hateful horrible creatures and it is almost impossible to feel sympathy for them and or any empathy for their behaviour.
It is going to get worse (look at UK) because only people on benefits have children without calculating a financial cost. As a society we tolerate the shit until it spills over into our own world.
Ultimately you have to stop the kids being born through draconian measures in cutting off or limiting benefits and nobody is ready for that…yet.[/quote]
interesting hypothesis, you are certainly more likely to have behavioural issues in later life and attachment issues. the heroin thing is only from the last 30 years though.
the number of care orders has accelerated rapidly over the last 5 years, couple that with the adoption after 3 years following on from the childrens referendum. the interventions needed to be much earlier than they used to be but the CFA are starting to go for ICOs for new born infants a lot more regularly.
[quote=“artfoley, post: 898020, member: 179”]interesting hypothesis, you are certainly more likely to have behavioural issues in later life and attachment issues. the heroin thing is only from the last 30 years though.
the number of care orders has accelerated rapidly over the last 5 years, couple that with the adoption after 3 years following on from the childrens referendum. the interventions needed to be much earlier than they used to be but the CFA are starting to go for ICOs for new born infants a lot more regularly.[/quote]
Which is all to the good and one step towards a proper policy rather than TUM’s dystopian “stop babies being born” idea.
[quote=“artfoley, post: 898034, member: 179”]is it fair though for a baby to become exposed to heroin/coke/crack or to have foetal alcohol syndrome?
is it dystopian to wish that active addicts take the pill rather than cause huge damage to the child in the womb ?[/quote]
What? Why would that be fair!? Promotion of contraception is another good policy. I guess when I read prevent them having babies I jumped to visions of more extreme methods.
My idea of preventing babies is to stop financially rewarding kids having kids and leaving education/having multiple kids and expect others to pay for it
Average working family has two or three kids and stops as money gets tighter/house is too small
If on benefits each additional kid is more income and you become entitled to a bigger house.
16 year old living at home in cramped house with rubbish parents - have a kid and get a place of your own
System encourages it. Not talking about anything more extreme.
[quote=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 898137, member: 2272”]My idea of preventing babies is to stop financially rewarding kids having kids and leaving education/having multiple kids and expect others to pay for it
Average working family has two or three kids and stops as money gets tighter/house is too small
If on benefits each additional kid is more income and you become entitled to a bigger house.
16 year old living at home in cramped house with rubbish parents - have a kid and get a place of your own
System encourages it. Not talking about anything more extreme.[/quote]
What’s your answer? Take welfare away and leave them live in poverty? You seem to be very much reflecting one side of the debate in Britain.
