Time for the GGA to force clubs to change names?

You claimed that there’s no issue because they knew no better when they formed the club and slavery was legal so he knew no better ---- Yet we now know better and you still want to stay silent?

There’s no one censoring or forcing - society is held together by shared values. We as a people decide what those values are and we have a responsibility to ensure they are as fair and wide sharing as possible.

Do Cork GGA followers still wave Confederate flags ??

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That’s a really original question mate, well done… Have you seen or attended any Cork games in the last few years? Did you see it in the crowd?

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I’m no advocate of Gemma but what has she done that is illegal now? Why is there this overwhelming need to force people to change and do what YOU think is right. Once you go down that road there is no turning back. We’ll be tearing down every monument and renaming every blasted thing, streets, clubs, buildings.

Our past if violent, horrible and full of pricks, deal with it. *I’m fully aware you read history :smiley:

I am writing a letter to John Burke demanding that the Spanish Armada Hotel changes its name immediately because of the crimes the Spanish committed in South America

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The issue isnt the past, it’s the here and now and the future… Dont be playing silly buggers with your illegal talk, you know well the likes of Gemma stand for and incite hate.

You’re taking the stance that we should rip up everything by force - that’s not what’s being said. I think the GAA have a great opportunity to evaluate what they stand for … do the values of 100/200 years ago reflect where we are at now… there’s fuck all wrong with introspection. If clubs are happy to proceed, then off they go … but I feel like you’re speaking through the narrative of white nationalist privilege here. If you were a person of colour or if your family were the victim of violence from men that now have GAA clubs named after them , I wonder would you have a different take? — If you standstill you are moving backwards — it’s forward we need to move, as an Island of all colours and orientation etc. etc.

You won’t get too many Rwandan refugees wanting to play for the Longford Slashers.

the thread title says “should GAA clubs be forced to change their name?”

If they introspect and want to change their name to whatever the fuck it is they want, absolutely fill your boots.

Should they be forced to change their name? Absolutely not, that is a dangerous route to go down

There is a very definite line between choice and force.

Now that humankind is not on verge of extinction at hands of a global pandemic we can argue about more mundane matters.

We can surely diverge some bit from the thread title , which was started by an idiot… there’s a valid argument to be had.

we’re having a valid argument. If clubs choose to change their name, for whatever reason. Fine.

Should they be forced, absolutely not

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Yourman is still at the corner of buttervant selling them. He also has Japanese imperial flags for the rebels

Ok - should the GAA initiate a discussion on it with clubs?

sure. discussion is always good

Ok - and if they had a vote on it and it was 55/45 in favour and some clubs were forced to change their name?

Revisionism doesn’t come into it this pig Mitchel.

From wiki

He was explicitly racist, saying negroes were “an innately inferior people” and opining "We deny that it is a crime, or a wrong, or even a peccadillo to hold slaves, to buy slaves, to keep slaves to their work by flogging or other needful correction.

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It’s cool, that was the 19th century

You open a pandoras box with the unionists, who also would like some clubs up north to change their names.

And that would be a bad thing?

If it’s a concession to be made for a united Ireland, it would be a good thing. I don’t think GAA clubs are on the radar of the social media savvy woke generation though, so unlikely John Mitchells will feel the heat.