Tom Humphries thread

[Sidney]

@artfoley

I addressed this point earlier. And you can’t compare Galwey and Cusack as Galwey actually took the stand. Cusack clearly hoped that his name wouldn’t be released and that smacks of cowardice coupled with the actual content of his reference praising Humphreys for being a volunteer i.e the way be got access to his victim.

He was under no obligation to take the stand.

Has the reference been published, ie. an actual link to the text or a report from a reputable publication containing the content of it?

@artfoley

Can t help but feel if it was hook that gave a reference in these circumstances you’d be wanting him blasted into space.

Hook has a track record, therefore we already have a pretty good idea of what his views on related topics are. What track record has Cusack of blaming victims?

[gilgamboa]

@artfoley

And you can’t compare Galwey and Cusack as Galwey actually took the stand.

Galwey also knew Halvey for 20 years and didnt only know him through a commercial relationship

[Sidney]

@anon7035031

How do you know or could you know that the remorse is genuine?

How do we know anything?

A character reference might be one way of getting a handle on such.

I’m sure there are all sorts of Cracker type criminal psychologists and psychiatrists who might have an opinion too from having contact with the perpetrator.

[anon7035031]

We know what crime was committed and whether it was premeditated or not. That should be the guideline for sentencing.

[artfoley]

@Sidney

Hook has a track record, therefore we already have a pretty good idea of what his views on related topics are. What track record has Cusack of blaming victims?

Where have I accused him of blaming victims? Showing c[quote=“Sidney, post:426, topic:13100”]
He was under no obligation to take the stand.

Has the reference been published, ie. an actual link to the text or a report from a reputable publication containing the content of it?
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Tis well you know it hasn’t been published considering the names were unusually witheld

Tom Humphries ‘exchanged thousands of texts’ with girl

[artfoley]

@Sidney

Hook has a track record, therefore we already have a pretty good idea of what his views on related topics are. What track record has Cusack of blaming victims?

But this isn’t about blaming victims it’s about writing references for convicted child abusers

[artfoley]

@Sidney

What would you expect - he’s from Listowel, a town where a man convicted of sexual assault gets applauded

And which is worse? Slapping Danny Foley on the back and wishing him well or writing a letter in an attempt to get a shorter sentence for a child abusers?

[Sidney]

@artfoley

And which is worse? Slapping Danny Foley on the back and wishing him well or writing a letter in an attempt to get a shorter sentence for a child abusers?

One would appear to blithely ignore the crime committed, the other doesn’t.

I’ll let you work out which is which.

[Sidney]

@artfoley

Where have I accused him of blaming victims? Showing c

Tis well you know it hasn’t been published considering the names were unusually witheld

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/tom-humphries-exchanged-thousands-of-texts-with-girl-1.3242533?mode=amp

So, we don’t actually know the content of what was written, just the broad topics that were mentioned, and we don’t know the context of such.

But, sure, let’s vilify away anyway without knowing.

[anon32894817]

What hook said is exactly what any father would say to his daughter or a brother say to his sister. People Are looking to
To get offended all day every day. How anybody can compare this to cusack is a bizarre.

[backinatracksuit]

@artfoley

@Sidney

What would you expect - he’s from Listowel, a town where a man convicted of sexual assault gets applauded

And which is worse? Slapping Danny Foley on the back and wishing him well or writing a letter in an attempt to get a shorter sentence for a child abusers?

Neither one is better than the other

[braz83]

Did you not get the memo? You have to be violently pro Hook and anti Cusack, or vice versa. Nuance is dead.

[backinatracksuit]

Mate, As they are both from Cork the memo I got is terribly confusing, we’ve been advised to deflect by introducing some lad called Danny Foley to the debate

[Horsebox]

This is really weird. “Victim blaming” is now worse than child abuse. Bizarre.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

Mate we are about to get hit by the biggest weather event ever and you are all worked up about this.

We need the leaders of the forum such as yourself focused. Let @Mac and @Fran worry about Donal og ffs

[GeoffreyBoycott]

Do they have character witnesses at sentencing in the US? It’s not just an issue in this jurisdiction. I can recall Mickey Harte providing a character reference for a sex offender after his conviction in Belfast a few years back.

[Rocko]

@gilgamboa

Galwey also knew Halvey for 20 years and didnt only know him through a commercial relationship

Didn’t they work for the same employer for most of that time? I’d say their relationship was fairly commercialised by that point.

[Rocko]

Sid, you’d serve your argument better by abandoning the comparisons with Hook. They’re not the same thing at all in terms of specificity, staking your reputation on the character of somebody or the circumstances.

[Mac]

@Little_Lord_Fauntleroy

Mate we are about to get hit by the biggest weather event ever and you are all worked up about this.

We need the leaders of the forum such as yourself focused. Let @Mac and @Fran worry about Donal og ffs

Point scoring on a day like today. Disgusting.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

Huh?

Im putting a strategy in place for the forum