Thereâs something deeply wrong with people whose attention shifts to âpersonal responsibilityâ when a woman is raped. If they canât see whatâs wrong with it I donât think you can ever make them see it. They just have a very fucked up way of thinking about sexual violence
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I agree with all of that.
Yet itâs absurd for someone (not you) to be using that argument to somehow excuse or defend or mitigate or explain or justify standing up for someone guilty of a different heinous crime. Standing up for that perpetrator with the sole intention of influencing their punishment.
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Way to ignore the point. Youâre a cunt, Donal ogs a cunt, hooks a cunt but Tom humphries is a child abuser. You claim to support rape victims but your comments here show you to be in the same class as hook, you donât blame victims, and Iâm sure that makes you feel warm and fuzzy, but you clearly donât give a fiddlerâs about a girl who was groomed and defiled. Youâre a cunt now stop screaming about victim blaming.
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Canât we all agree that the gga and rogbee attracts deviants
Is Dr. Shana Maier victim blaming?
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i think rape is a heinous crime. What I donât think is that Hooks comments had the effect of people who heard them suddenly thinking its grand to go out and do a bit of raping. I donât think his comments suddenly traumatised victims of rape or somehow made them think it was their fault because Hook spoke about personal responsibility.
I also think he was sincere in his apology. Unfortunately instead of it leading to a national discussion around consent the witchhunt to have Hook sacked completely overshadowed the conversation that should have been taking place.
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You say you arenât defending Hook or victim blaming, yet you refuse to deal with what he actually said about it.
Youâre the one that has supported Hook, not me.
You havenât a breeze what youâre talking about, so you launch into an idiotic rant.
Iâve learned over the years to take anything you say about crime or the justice system with a fistful of salt, because itâs as clear as day youâre in that game for the wrong reasons, which means you shouldnât be in it at all.
Ah this old chestnut. Iâm not in that game anymore, but Iâve been at more rape trials than you ever will.
I havenât supported hook in spite of your attempts at a logic leap. Just because someone challenges you on this topic theyâre automatically a hook supporter.
Using that logic youâre clearly a supporter of lighter sentences for child abusers
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Hook, Donal Cusack, David Walsh, @Sidney , humphries
All very very strange men, I wouldnât leave any of them alone with a child.
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They reinforced and gave succour to the view among what is clearly a significant proportion of men that itâs OK to blame women for their own rape.
You arenât a woman, so how would you know. Lots of women (and they donât have to be rape victims) have said otherwise.
Thatâs possible, maybe it was, maybe it wasnât. Because of his track record of deliberate controversialism, I strongly have my doubts.
There was a national discussion. Sadly it involved a hugely vocal participation from those who were trying to mitigate rape as a crime by defending the blaming of a victim.
I donât think that was a discussion that needed to be had.
Whenever these rape cases come up the thing thatâs really clear is that some people see rape as kind of a natural thing, even if they acknowledge itâs wrong. That if a man is with an attractive woman, in the right circumstances, if heâs the wrong type of guy, then it is part of the natural order of things that he will attempt to force sex on her.
Rape seems to be seen by some as an extreme act of sex, rather than an extreme act of violence. A sort of deviant outcome of the sexual attraction that exists between men and women. Awful, but predictable. I think thatâs how they think theyâve covered their bases once they say the guy is a scumbag.
The implication is that women should go around with this constant sublimated terror that any guy they meet may want to commit this extreme, life-destroying act of violence against them. And if they donât, as evidenced by the fact they were raped, then they have to take a share of the blame for that.
Itâs a completely absurd position. No one would blame a guy for getting smashed over the head with a rock by some guy he had been drinking with in a pub. But if an horrific act of violence is perpetrated against a woman by some guy she drank with, well then they have to stop and ask if she might have given him cause to do it.
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You donât even know what youâre challenging me on.
Just as a matter of interest Side. How would you feel if say someone like Stephen Spielberg wrote a reference for Harvey Weinstein?
Probably because you keep moving the goalposts and ignoring the question put to you so Iâm now going to start using your tactics
You clearly are a Humphreys supporter as you want him to get a shorter sentence.
Victim blamer
Victim blamer
Victim blamer
Someone like Oliver Stone?
Patrick Freyne got it spot on. Heâs banned from Communicorp stations now.
Deary me.
Yes but you support shorter sentences for convicted child abusers.
Time to step away from the keyboard, mate.