1989

Tudjman always claimed he wasnt in charge of the HVO the Croat paramilitary force in BiH - rememeber therir leader committed suicide in the Hague by drinking poision , him and alija itzedbegovic were almost deemed to be victims - the west had no problem tho putting milosevic on trial for the actions of Mladic and Karadzic, i have a huge issue with this - Mladic went nuts after his daughter shot herself and killed every bosniak in sight- Karadzic lost control of the bosnian serbs and Mladic employed the likes of Arkan (raznatovic) to go the front line and had free reign in villages ( the majority of his men were thugs from the delige the red star ultras)

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Derby tried to sign two Czechs in 1989, I think it was around February of that year

Robert Maxwell owned Derby at the time

Lubos Kubik was one of them, I can’t remember the other one

It was big news at the time, the BBC 1 o’clock news covered it and all

Anyway it fell through

Kubik ended up playing for Fiorentina around 1991

I wonder who the first iron curtain player to play for a western team was

I’m sure Alexander Zavarov played for Juventus around 1989/90

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@Sidney do you have any recollection of Banik Ostrava v Aston Villa in september 1990?

great post there - thats some trivia question

Not much but I remember Villa’s tie against Inter Milan in the next round very well

Dr. Jo was the Villa manager, a lovely man but not quite cut out for 1990s UK football

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They got a big fine for the pitch invasion afterwards

yes - did david platt score in villa park , villa won 2-0 and in the away end there was a load of smoke bombs set off - Brian Moore was on commentary on HTV

Great stuff @mickee321 and @Sidney
Some great posts there :+1:

tensions were very high back then as the italian police battered the english fans around train stations at that summer’s world cup - this was old school two legged knockout european football

Was that not 1994

Villa beat them on penalties

Inter won in 1990 winning 3-0 in the second leg after being 2-0 down from the first leg

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it wasnt world soccer ( remember the august 1990 edition with Schillachi on the front cover) but another magazine in september 1990 (not 442?) had an interview with english fans describing how they had been assaulted by the italian cops
i was only 11 but i still remember reading that

I though you were on about 94.That was a fantastic game and occasion.The legendary Big Ron

no 1990
first season back in europe post ban
hence the conversation about banik ostrava

Panenka of the Pirlo penalty signed for Rapid Vienna in 1981

Boniek played for Juventus from 1982 to 1985

Detari of Hungary signed for Eintracht Frankfurt in 1987

I guess the iron curtain was more iron for some than for others

1989
did cork city play bray on a very sunny wednesday afternoon at the carlisle grounds in a replayed FAI cup semi final?

Here we go

Maxwell fucked the deal up because he thought he could get the players for free
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/nostalgia/maxwells-madcap-scheme-bring-czech-1183996

@Sidney
1989 - Noel Mannion’s try in the Arms Park

Derry had Jonathan Speake playing and won the final, Stuart Gauld and Pascal Vaudequin were playing also and George Jackson reported from the Brandywell

Cobh were in the premier league , Terry Kearns was up front, Alex Ludzic (RIP) was in goal

Very minor point to note: the fall of communism also permanently destroyed Romanian rugby.

If you think that Yugoslavia had qualified for euro 92 ahead of Denmark…

Please carry on with this great discussion lads.

1990 and 1994 were both great ties

Ray Houghton repeated the dose on Pagliuca three months after Giants Stadium