[QUOTE=“balbec, post: 989297, member: 193”][/QUOTE]
Good enough for rr and stokes is good enough for me. Also hugely outspoken against doping which is always good indication in cycling.
your lazy comment about Italians all being dopers is straight out of the Phil L commentary handbook. Marco P might beg to differ.
[QUOTE=“Raymond Crotty, post: 989521, member: 25”]Good enough for rr and stokes is good enough for me. Also hugely outspoken against doping which is always good indication in cycling.
your lazy comment about Italians all being dopers is straight out of the Phil L commentary handbook. Marco P might beg to differ.[/QUOTE]
The Italians invented EPO abuse pal. Pantani, scarponi, cipollini, petacchi, basso, di luca, Ricco. Helllllloooo???
There was a snippet of an interview with Paul Kimmage on Newstalk tonight where they were discussing whether cycling was very hard on itself as regards doping compared to other sports. Kimmage then said he was watching the World Cup and he saw in a dugout a doctor he had last seen in 1989 handing out syringes to cyclists. Anyone know which team this was?
Possibly Switzerland. Not certain
so that means all Italians are dopers? What an ignorant comment
could equally say that martin must be on the juice because of Roche, mcquaid, kelly etc
Might be more apt to compare him to Simpson, Froome et al.
[QUOTE=“Raymond Crotty, post: 989654, member: 25”]so that means all Italians are dopers? What an ignorant comment
could equally say that martin must be on the juice because of Roche, mcquaid, kelly etc[/QUOTE]
Ok, believe in Nibali if it makes you feel better. I might be a bit older than you, but in the late 80’s the italians couldn’t get over a railway bridge. Then a couple of years later they were dominating. Not the only ones to dope of course. But fair to say a higher proportion of them caught than the french for example. And more wins.
I never said I believed in him. I said i have as much confidence in him as roche junior (which isnt great). labelling all Italians dopers is just stupid considering efforts of likes of Marco Pinotti and Aldo Sassi in recent years. Good to see you’ve backed down from that though.
Still though find it more than a bit rich for an Irish cycling fan to throw stones given our own appalling track record. Plenty of reasons to doubt Nibali but using his nationality as justification is just silly.
Think it was Germany:
http://fussballdoping.derwesten-recherche.org/en/2013/05/muller-wohlfahrt-how-does-he-work/
Kittel takes the stage today. Nibali wins the tour with 7.37 to spare over Péraud.
Very interesting article on the numbers underpinning the performances at the TdF this year - http://sportsscientists.com/2014/07/the-physiology-at-the-front-of-the-tour/
Conclusion is that the performances are plausible, but at the limit, and as such in the same category as the dopers of the last decade.
Really like Ten Dam. Workd of difference between likes of him and Roche.
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/07/laurens-ten-dam-interview-dutchman-really-happy-with-tour/
Where’s the 2015 Thread chaps?
Dan Martin in a group of seven about five minutes ahead with 47Km to go! Majka the major threat in the breakaway
