Train Travel

I wanted to link this article, but I don’t think it belongs strictly in the Public Transport thread, or indeed the lone traveller thread. Anyway, I love travelling on trains, even alone, and reckon I might try a couple of these. The article is from the Right Hook Travel Club weekly email


Travel
with Fionn Davenport

THE MOST ICONIC TRAIN JOURNEYS
I’ve been reading Paul Theroux’s Ghost Train to the Eastern Star, and it reminds me that short of embarking on a luxury cruise ship, the most romantic and elegant way to travel is by train. And landlubbers will argue that train travel beats the pants off liner travel anyway.

And in these eco-conscious times, train travel takes on a whole new dimension, adding yet another reason why we’re better off boarding at a train station than at an airport.

Travel agents fall over themselves, eager to sell you tickets for the world’s most luxurious and expensive tourist-oriented train rides.

Did you know that the same journeys can often be made on regular trains, for a fraction of the price? One of the world’s best train travel websites is www.seat61.com, which was begun by a train enthusiast and includes every conceivable rail option - at all prices.

But whether you splash out on luxury or ride with the locals, a train journey reveals far more of a country than any internal flight.

  1. Cape Town to Pretoria on South Africa’s Blue Train

Fifty years ago, when your Union Castle liner docked at Cape Town, you might have taken the Blue Train to Johannesburg, South Africa’s economic powerhouse figuratively and literally built on gold. Today’s Blue Train is aimed fairly and squarely at tourists, but it still links Cape Town with Johannesburg, or rather Pretoria, the safer administrative capital, once or twice a week. A gentleman’s club on rails, its double-glazed windows are tinted with real gold, and meals - and even Montecristo cigars - are included in the fare on the 27-hour journey. Utter luxury comes with scenery to match: views of Table Mountain as the train heads out of Cape Town through the wine regions at Stellenbosch and Paarl, then into the veldt and up the scenic Hex River Pass.

Fares start from 7,900 Rand (708) one-way, bluetrain.co.za.

The affordable alternatives: You can enjoy exactly the same scenery for just 30 including a sleeper, aboard the regular four-times-weekly Shosholoza Meyl train from Cape Town to Johannesburg. Shosholoza Meyl passenger trains link major South African cities and have to be one of South Africa’s best-kept travel secrets. Comfortable, cheap and safe, they have basic sleepers (shared two- and four-bed compartments, with a hot shower at the end of the corridor) and a restaurant car selling meals, snacks, beer and South African wine. The train isn’t air-conditioned, so the windows open for great views of Africa. Bring your own cigar!

And if luxury is important, you cvan get a touch of it that’s still five times cheaper than the Blue Train, a twice-weekly Premier Classe train also links Cape Town with Jo’burg, with private sleepers, lounge car and restaurant, for 120 per person including meals. premierclasse.co.za

  1. Singapore to Bangkok on the Eastern & Oriental Express

Once a week, the ultra-luxurious Eastern & Oriental Express leaves Singapore’s 1932-built art deco railway station, bound for Kuala Lumpur, Penang and Bangkok. On board you’ll find private en suite sleepers, lounges, a haute cuisine restaurant car and an open air viewing car. The ‘E&O’ rumbles across the famous causeway from Singapore into Malaysia, through the palm plantations of the Malay peninsula, making a brief diversion to Kanchanaburi and the infamous Bridge on the River Kwai on its way to the Thai capital.

Prices for the two-day trip start at 1,100 including meals, orient-express.com/web/eoe/journeys/3_65110.jsp
The affordable alternative: Singapore to Bangkok is a wonderful 1,249 mile overland journey, it takes about 48 hours including an afternoon free in KL and a morning spent in Penang, departures are daily, and it costs a bargain 40 one-way including comfortable sleeping-berths with fresh clean sheets. You change trains at Kuala Lumpur and Butterworth (Penang), and of course you can stop off to see Kuala Lumpur or Penang as long as you like, or catch the ferry to Ko Samui or the bus to Phuket or Krabi.

A sleeping-berth on the International Express from Penang to Bangkok costs just 25, with fresh clean sheets and curtains for privacy, like those used by Marilyn Monroe in Some Like it Hot. Bring your own Marilyn!

  1. Rajasthan aboard the Palace on Wheels

If you’ve 1800 to spare, you can live like a Maharajah aboard the Palace on Wheels on a seven-day tour of Rajasthan. The itinerary includes Agra and the Taj Mahal, princely Jaipur, the lake city of Udaipur and the breathtaking fairytale citadel of Jaisalmer. With air conditioning, private en suite sleepers, restaurant, lounges and bar, it’s the luxury way to see the Princely States.

www.palaceonwheels.net
The affordable alternative: An IndRail pass costs $135 for seven days, $185 for 15 days, giving unlimited air-conditioned travel across the whole Indian Railways network. If you’re sure of your itinerary, the excellent family-run SD Enterprises in Wembley (windiarail.co.uk, +44 (0)20 8903 3411) can pre-book some or all your trains for you free of charge. Delhi, Varanasi, Agra, Jaipur, Jaisalmer and Simla makes a great two-week itinerary, contrasting desert cities with cool hill stations, a holy city on the Ganges with princely Rajasthan. Overnight sleepers between many cities save both time and hotel bills, even compared to flying. Forget images of overcrowded trains with passengers hanging out the doors - in air-conditioned class you’ll have your own reserved berth, fresh, clean bedding provided, and plenty of room. With every journey you’ll experience the real India, with cries of “chai, chai, garam chai” (wonderful hot sweet tea) from attendants walking the train, and hot cheap curries (veg or non-veg) served at your seat.

Note: You need to make a seat or berth reservation for all long-distance journeys on Indian trains, you cannot simply turn up and hop on. Bookings open 90 days before departure - this was originally 60 days, but it was experimentally extended to 90 days and now made permanent in 2008. Some short-distance inter-city trains may open for bookings less than this. Reservations are now completely computerised. You can book Indian train tickets online, at www.irctc.co.in.

  1. New Zealand: Auckland to Wellington on the Overlander

According to filmmaker Peter Jackson, it was on this train journey aged 18 and reading Lord of the Rings for the first time that he realised how closely the New Zealand landscape resembled Middle Earth. While package tours gravitate to the South Island’s scenic Tranz-Alpine train, New Zealand’s truly epic rail experience is to be found on the North Island aboard the Auckland to Wellington Overlander.

This amazing 423-mile day-long trip costs as little as NZ$119 (54) if booked online in advance. An eye-opening feast of geography lies between NZ’s economic and administrative capitals, from farmlands to volcanoes, river gorges to rainforests and rugged coastline. You’ll travel the length of the historic North Island Main Trunk Railway, completed in 1908 with such feats of engineering as the Makatote Viaduct and Raurimu Spiral. Settle back in your seat with a “Devonshire cream tea” from the buffet, or wander on to the open-air viewing platform for reflection-free photography. So if you’re visiting New Zealand and flying into Auckland, swap your domestic flight to Wellington for an overland adventure.

The Overlander runs daily in summer, Friday, Saturday & Sunday at other times, see tranzscenic.co.nz

  1. Canada: Coast to coast on the Canadian

Three times a week year-round, the legendary “Canadian” links Toronto, Winnipeg, Edmonton and Vancouver, via the lakelands of Ontario and the snow-capped mountains of Jasper National Park in the Canadian Rockies. Not only is the scenery spectacular, the train itself is a piece of history: In the early 1990s, without the funds to buy new cars, state-owned operator VIA Rail refurbished the original streamlined stainless steel coaches built in 1955 for the Canadian Pacific Railroad’s “Canadian”.

In Silver & Blue class passengers travel in private sleepers, take breakfast, lunch and dinner in the elegant Silver & Blue restaurant, and relax in lounges sporting traditional roof-top “vista domes” for a 360-degree view of Canada. The three-night journey from Toronto to Vancouver in Silver & Blue class costs from C$859 (529), including sleeper and meals. But there’s also an economy option - Comfort class reclining seats with their own coffee shop, lounge and vista-dome for sightseeing, from C$433 (266), meals extra. Visitors to Canada will also appreciate VIA Rail’s other routes, the fast inter-city trains linking Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal and Quebec, and the overnight Montreal-Halifax “Ocean”.

  1. USA: Coast to coast with Amtrak

Amtrak is the United States’ national train network, a godsend for visitors as it links the most popular cities without the need either to hire a car or miss all the scenery and fly. It may be a skeleton network by European standards, but Amtrak can take you the length and breadth of the country, with five different coast-to-coast routes. The California Zephyr (CZ) from Chicago to San Francisco is perhaps the most scenic route of all, through the “bread basket” flatlands of Nebraska, the dramatic Rocky Mountains west of Denver and the wild but beautiful Sierra Nevada between Reno and Sacramento. Indeed, the CZ is a contender for the most scenic train ride anywhere.

Its double-deck trans-continental Superliner coaches will impress even the weariest Irish commuter: the reclining seats compare with airline business class, and the best private sleepers feature en suite shower and toilet. All passengers can use the dining-car and “sightseer lounge” with caf downstairs and an observation lounge on the top deck complete with panoramic wrap-around windows. Yet these are regular trains with regular prices, and booked online at amtrak.com, the epic three-day, 3,000- mile trip from New York via Chicago to San Francisco costs as little as $193 (138) in a reclining seat. The same trip with sole occupancy of a two-bed sleeper costs from $800 (574) for a passenger travelling alone or from $420 (301) per person for two people travelling together, including meals.

www.amtrak.com

  1. The Trans-Siberian Railway

Trans-Siberian has been a name to conjure with ever since rails linked Moscow with Vladivostok in 1901. Since the fall of communism, several companies have started deluxe charter trains, and 7,500 buys you a luxury two-week ride from Moscow to Vladivostok.

But most travellers take the regular trains, including the Moscow-Vladivostok “Rossiya” (departing Moscow every second day, 6,152 miles in seven days), and two weekly trains from Moscow direct to the Chinese capital Beijing, one via Mongolia and the Gobi desert (from Moscow every Tuesday, 4,735 miles, six days) and another via Manchuria (from Moscow every Friday, 5,623 miles, six days). This train has 2nd class 4-berth compartments called kup and 1st class 2-berth compartments called spalny wagon or ‘SV’, plus a restaurant car.

You can arrange a Moscow-Beijing ticket through local Russian agencies such as Real Russia (realrussia.co.uk) or Svezhy Veter (sv-agency.udm.ru); fares start at around $650 (466) one-way in 2nd class 4-berth or $910 (653) in 1st class 2-berth. See http://www.seat61.com/Trans-Siberian.htm.

  1. London to Venice on the Venice Simplon Orient Express

How can any 24-hour train ride could be worth 1,400? Beautifully-restored carriages, superb cuisine, surprisingly unpretentious service and great scenery will convince many that it is.

This is two train rides in one, a daytime journey from London to Folkestone in restored British Pullman cars with champagne and afternoon tea, then a sleeper trip from Calais to Venice in 1929 vintage Wagons-Lits, with dinner, breakfast and lunch taken in a choice of three elegant restaurant cars.

1794 one way London-Venice, orient-expresstrains.com
The affordable alternative: It may not be the Orient Express, but train travel to Italy is a doddle on regular trains. Hop on an afternoon Eurostar to Paris and a sleeper train will whisk you overnight to Florence, Rome, Verona or Venice, with a restaurant car for dinner and private sleepers with comfy beds. And do it all for around 200 - 400-500 if you want to travel first class.

seat61.com/Italy.htm or call Rail Europe on 0844 8485848.

  1. West Highlands of Scotland aboard the Royal Scotsman

The Royal Scotsman is a luxury train that’s closer to home, but with all the trimmings of its overseas counterparts. En suite staterooms, elegant dining, and what is arguably some of Britain’s best scenery passing the window in the wild and remote west highlands of Scotland.

A three-night tour along the West Highland Line from Edinburgh to Mallaig starts at 3,300 per person for two people sharing. Transport to Edinburgh is not included. royalscotsman.com/web/rs/journeys/3_55386.jsp
The affordable alternative: A berth on the excellent Caledonian Sleeper from London to Fort William costs 132 one-way. A miniature hotel with compact one and two-bed compartments, plus a lounge car complete with tables, chairs and even leather sofas (the only ones on any regular scheduled British train!), it’ll take you from the drizzly capital to the foot of Ben Nevis before domestic air travellers have recovered from their 4am drive to the airport. A wee dram of Glenfiddich in the lounge and you’ll be asleep before Crewe, waking up in the highlands wilderness where a glimpse of bounding fluffy white tail might explain the train’s unofficial name: “The Deerstalker”…

See firstscotrail.com or call 08457 550033

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slightly off topic - but for my sins i have to work 1 day a week down the bog- travelling by plane to the bog is half the price of the train

Yeah, true, train prices are fairly dear in this country, but then again it’s cheaper if you book online which is fair enough. My flatmate is going down to Ennis for the game tomorrow and got a Dublin-Ennis one way ticket for 30, which is reasonable in my opinion.

The train is a fantastic way to travel. Especially if you have a table to yourself.

The train is only a wonderful way to travel if there’s a hot bird sitting across from you reading Pasternak. Otherwise it’s a moderate service and far too expensive. I like going to matches by train however even if it is ridiculously expensive.

Train Dublin to Kerry is about 70 brick, fly to Kerry in fraction of the time, 50 brick. The unions have it wrecked.

[quote=“SHANNONSIDER**”]The train is only a wonderful way to travel if there’s a hot bird sitting across from you reading Pasternak. Otherwise it’s a moderate service and far too expensive. I like going to matches by train however even if it is ridiculously expensive.

Train Dublin to Kerry is about 70 brick, fly to Kerry in fraction of the time, 50 brick. The unions have it wrecked.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but you need to be at the airport 45 mins minimum before the flight, takes another 45 minimum to get to dub airport at any busy time, at a cost as well, 12 return on aircoach. The plane drops you off in the middle of nowhere as well in Kerry.

I would always get the train to cork, it’s dear but it’s a great service now that you can book your seat.

Having a quick toke before getting on the train after playing a match on sunday was one of lifes great pleasures

I’m five mins from the airport, you need to be there a bit early but wouldn’t you be hours going down in the train anyway? You fly down in no time and you ALWAYS get your own seat. I’ve spent too many times standing between carriages for two hours on a friday night after paying €50 for a train ticket to give those pricks another cent.

I’d rarely be going down to Cork at the same time as bleary eyed commuters, so it’s always much more of a novelty for me. Although I did fly down in May, so cost and convenience is probably becoming more of a factor than it was previously. I always get a seat anyway at the times I’d be going

[quote=“Sledgehammer”]Did you know that the same journeys can often be made on regular trains, for a fraction of the price? One of the world’s best train travel websites is www.seat61.com, which was begun by a train enthusiast and includes every conceivable rail option - at all prices.
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Only noticing this thread now, a great man is seat61 (aka Mark Smith). One of my favourite sayings by the man is that all you need for rail travel is “a good book and a corksrew”.

I actually hope to get from Dublin to Tallin in Estonia sometime next year without stepping on a plane once. It’s possible to do it in four days but I’m going to take a week to do it, stopping off to see some Scandinavian cities on the way using Sweden’s sleeper train network as hotels.

If you tap a free-spirited libertine on board will that mean you’ve joined the mile long club Ben?

What’s the general route? Ireland - England - Malmo?

Indeed it would SS!!

Anyway,
Ferry from Dublin to Holyhead,
trains over to Harwich, (less time in UK the better)
Ferry from Harwich to Esbjerg in Denmark,
trains to Malmo and onto Stockholm,
and then Stockholm to Tallinn by ferry.

I’ve never been to Harwich. Sounds like a miserable sort of place. Do they have passenger ships to Denmark from there, thought it would only be some grim cargo ships and fishing boats sailing from a kip like that.

[quote=“BenShermin”]Indeed it would SS!!

Anyway,
Ferry from Dublin to Holyhead,
trains over to Harwich, (less time in UK the better)
Ferry from Harwich to Esbjerg in Denmark,
trains to Malmo and onto Stockholm,
and then Stockholm to Tallinn by ferry.[/quote]

How much will that set you back you reckon Ben?

Sounds good.

Stena Line sail to Hook van Holland from there and DFDS sail to Denmark. The place is worse than Holyhead though!

Rail and sail from London to Amsterdam is apparantly very popular via Harwich and very cheap also, 59gbp single gets all your trains and your ferry with a cabin and a chance of 7hrs sleep on board. Beats paying over the odds for a hotel in London only to wake up at 4am for an early flight to Amsterdam.

Julio I’ll look up the price for it at some stage, it ain’t as cheap as flying though I can tell you that for sure. The prices for overnight ferries look dear but you have to treat them as paying for a hotel and travel together.

[quote=“BenShermin”] The place is worse than Holyhead though!
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holyhead is fair enough these days, especially compared to those detestable full of inbreds ports in south wales i.e pembroke and fishguard.

rail sailing to london on new years day

ben, what’s the stormiest they’ll put the ulysses out in ? (can’t think of any time they’ve cancelled it)

[quote=“artfoley”]holyhead is fair enough these days, especially compared to those detestable full of inbreds ports in south wales i.e pembroke and fishguard.

rail sailing to london on new years day

ben, what’s the stormiest they’ll put the ulysses out in ? (can’t think of any time they’ve cancelled it)[/quote]

I can’t remember her being ever cancelled either, fair play to the bitch:clap:!

Best attempt that rail and sail with caution Foley, last two years they put Isle of Inishmore in place of Ulysses after Christmas, she won’t go out in really bad weather.

[quote=“BenShermin”]I can’t remember her being ever cancelled either, fair play to the bitch:clap:!

Best attempt that rail and sail with caution Foley, last two years they put Isle of Inishmore in place of Ulysses after Christmas, she won’t go out in really bad weather.[/quote]

damn, was kinda hoping that I wouldn’t have to go stena, mind you the inishmre isn’t the worst thng I’ve been in a storm, got caught back in 98 getting the only ferry back to london out of rosslare for 3 days and they threw on an old refurbed B & I yolk, got tossed like a toy in a hyperactive kids bath

Drinking on a train is way better than drinking on a plane.

Agreed thrawneen, drinking beer on a train whilst listening to a nice big pair of ipod speakers, ah lovely

The ferry port that I used in wales last summer was fair enough, can’t remember the name of the place mind you, i was just glad to get out of the kip in time for work the following week

wales is an alright sort of place :guns:

Got some good prices on trains there by booking ahead
Eurostar E35 one way London-Paris
TGV E38 one way Paris-Geneva

The Eurostar is the business altogether, especially when you’re drinking on it.