Twitter (Part 1)

Bored and relatively wealthy with lots of time on his hands. Its the hill he has chosen to die on. It’s bizzare but I’m sure he feels justified in it in his mind. Some people thrive on notoriety

If only you could find a window into the mind of lad who’d spend his days arguing about absolute nonsense… Where would you even begin to look for such characters? :man_shrugging:

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You’d have a bit more respect for somebody doing it publicly rather than anonymously, that’s actually beyond belief

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Isn’t transgender a mental illness and shouldn’t it be treated as such?

I know others have already picked you up on this and I’m not sure why I’m bothering but holy shit this is such an amazing post it deserves ridicule. There is zero relationship between FGM and trans people. It’s astounding that you can make that leap in your head and then deem that insight worthy of sharing with the world.

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Whats gamergate

Stop, it’s the best bit. I came for the sports but stay for the scraps.

It’s a real black hole to read about because it was one of those things that took over the likes of Reddit for ages back about 2015.

Basically gamergate was one of those weird 4chan type ā€œmovementsā€ that was trying to protect the identity of gamers from being changed by modernisation. They argued that games that promoted social concepts were being favoured in the media and traditional games enjoyed by gamers were being knocked. And basically they said there was collusion between feminists and the gaming industry to subvert the image of the traditional gamer.

So a lot of female developers in gaming started getting online abuse on various platforms and there was a bit of a storm about it in the States I think but it was a very niche topic.

But Linehan was a big gamer I think and he took a strong anti-gamergate stance and tweeted about it a lot and then because of the type of person involved in it he got a lot of heat for it on twitter (bots and 4chan weirdos and the likes). And he became something of a feminist hero. He was one of the few famous people who took a real interest in gamergate because of his background so he was seen as a real progressive thinker.

And lots of women looked up to him and championed him. And he championed women’s identities more and the value in women’s contributions to society more and more. And his stance became more and more focused then on the protection of women as an identity (because this was in direct contrast to the protection of the gamer identity) and then he saw trans people as an intrusion on that or whatever because they were blending the genders and not celebrating women as women (in his mind) so he doubled down and got into a strange wing of ā€œfeminismā€ that is about celebrating the division between the genders and doesn’t really tolerate trans issues.

And then when he looked back at all the people who supported his stance on Gamergate, he realised most of them were supportive of trans rights too. So he recently changed his mind on Gamergate and has switched sides (despite the whole issue being in the past, being an extremely niche topic that nobody cares about, and despite the absurdity of switching sides completely all this time later).

And he even went on to talk about some chap who was a leader on Gamergate who was on Stormfront and the likes and a big fan of Tommy Robinson. Anyway Graham now thinks he was too quick to judge him based on those facts and he should have judged the man, not his image or something like that.

Sorry that probably makes little sense but that’s basically the arc of his beliefs. Just a weird spiralling debate that he has become entrapped in that has resulted in him changing his mind completely and he seems oblivious to the pointlessness and absurdity of it all.

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The internet is a strange strange place.

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That’s why I’ll never agree to the pressure to put TFK online. We’d get all sorts of weirdos if we went on the web.

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Oh god yeah, we just have the bog standard weirdos here, easily managed apart from one or two who go rogue. You’d almost miss Ball Ox at times.

Holy shit

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Can you tell me what rights trans people don’t have in Ireland, today? Nobody seems capable of answering

+1. That’s crazy stuff.

However, I have a vague recollection of Linehan making bits of forum favourite Miguel Delaney on twitter a few years ago.

Delaney was more tweeting about Father Ted and Linehan’s work generally but used good INTERNET etiquette when mentioning Linehan by using his twitter handle. It was something along the lines of he has a fantastic body of comedy work and the weak second series of Father Ted shouldn’t detract from that.

@glinner wasn’t happy about it at all. The over and back went on for hours, days.

They dont have the right to suspend disbelief, and it’s just not fair

This is another one of those let’s not worry about those actual real hard to fix problems, far away, we’ll just make this shit up and feel good about ourselves

I genuinely have no idea what human rights are being breached in Ireland today against Transexual people

Both are supposed human rights issues, correct?

Yet noone can tell me what rights are infringed for trans people here.

FGM is an ACTUAL human rights abuse

Cc @Thomas_Brady

Be interested in your take mates

It can do terrible things to man/cisman

That’s a highly informative post @rocko, I didn’t know about Lenihan’s involvement in Gamergate, or that he had changed sides, or that he was cozying up to Tommy Robinson types or any of that.

Gamergate had no leaders and was a broad cultural movement to remove any feminist or progressive influences from computer games and basically keep the industry for conservative men only. It started when a lady called Zoe Quinn released some weird game and then her ex-boyfriend made up a load of shit on 4Chan about how she had cheated on him with a games journalist to get publicity for her game. She was quickly getting death threats. The boyfriend admitted that his story wasn’t true but it was all out of control very quickly. At it’s peak there were plenty of female coders getting death threats to try and drive them out of the games industry. It went on for a few years I think.

I get that Lenihan says that his wife was threatened by trans-rights people and I’m sure that would have a big effect on him but if he’s changed his mind on Gamergate then he’s basically gone insane, he’s been swallowed by the culture-wars machine. A precautionary tale.

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