Thatās a highly informative post @rocko, I didnāt know about Lenihanās involvement in Gamergate, or that he had changed sides, or that he was cozying up to Tommy Robinson types or any of that.
Gamergate had no leaders and was a broad cultural movement to remove any feminist or progressive influences from computer games and basically keep the industry for conservative men only. It started when a lady called Zoe Quinn released some weird game and then her ex-boyfriend made up a load of shit on 4Chan about how she had cheated on him with a games journalist to get publicity for her game. She was quickly getting death threats. The boyfriend admitted that his story wasnāt true but it was all out of control very quickly. At itās peak there were plenty of female coders getting death threats to try and drive them out of the games industry. It went on for a few years I think.
I get that Lenihan says that his wife was threatened by trans-rights people and Iām sure that would have a big effect on him but if heās changed his mind on Gamergate then heās basically gone insane, heās been swallowed by the culture-wars machine. A precautionary tale.
Hang on, you think it doesnāt happen in Ireland?
This is actual human rights abuse in Ireland. Happening now. Says a lot you know more about spoofy trans rights than actual human rights abuse alright. Itās another one of those comfortable easy to make yourself look good causes, because theyāve already got their rights
Tell me, please, what rights donāt trans people have in Ireland now?
Sheās talking about a very specific issue in Australia, where she says most Aboriginees in Aussie prison are there for domestic abuse / child protection. That doesnāt really apply to the original BLM protests in the US. In the US theyāve got the 3 strike rule which has put lots of black people in prison for life for non-violent crimes.
You are confusing the law with the actual experience of people. FGM is illegal in Ireland. That doesnāt mean it canāt happen.
There are some limited rights for trans people in Ireland. That doesnāt mean there isnāt widespread discrimination. Gobshites saying itās made up and things like that. There are serious issues about access to medical care and attention. There are very restrictive rights for younger people.
So thereās an answer to your ridiculous question. And finally an admission from you that you compared two incomparable things for no reason at all.
Hozier said āTrans-rights are human rightsā. This was a statement of fact. This simple statement of fact has completely destroyed your day.
Iām fairly sure Hozier does not support FGM, Iām fairly sure heās a feminist who has supported a very wide range of feminist-type issues such as abortion, childline etc. The limit on a tweet is 280 characters so I donāt know how Hozier could be expected to squeeze a reference to FGM into every single tweet he makes.
And he is not āHozier - World Policeā expected to wade into every single internet wrong before he says anything else - like before heās allowed say āTrans-rights are human rightsā he has to fix JK Rowlingās problems and FGM while heās at it.
Also how is it a human rights infringement to have a different belief system than a trans person? If so, they are equally guilty of it, by trying to take away the sexuality of people. People who menstruate. Really.
Look @Tank, youāre a grand fella but itās impossible talk to you. You half try and be funny and half try and be serious and in a remarkable twist of fate, manage to achieve neither
Are you entirely incapable of debating without introducing other irrelevancies?
There are specific issues about medical rights for trans people and availability of support for those transitioning is very different depending on what the transition is. But I donāt expect you to know that.
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Younger people, like how young @Rocko
Also how is it a human rights infringement to have a different belief system than a trans person? If so, they are equally guilty of it, by trying to take away the sexuality of people. People who menstruate. Really.
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A different belief system does not equate to discrimination. Also a different belief system doesnāt give people the right to discriminate against others.
But itās clear by now that you havent thought any of this true. In fact that was clear from your first absurd post.
So you think itās ok for trans people to discriminate against everyone else? That isnāt a human rights infringement, but discriminating against a trans person is.
Would you be so kind as to point me in the direction of material on the medical rights issue.
What age are the young people you mentioned before?
Youād have to agree with herā¦if these people really wanna do good go into the communities and get involved to make a difference. The only bone of contention Iād like to pick is that the violence being felt in the aboriginal community has to be put in a racist frame and generations of white influence have ripped their society apart and their men have no purpose, no meaning and no futureā¦ It canāt be a coincidence that itās the exact same in native American communities.
I donāt think they are exactly comparable thereās still huge tracts of land where aboriginal communities can live relatively free from white influence,not at all like reserves in the states, but you raise a deeper issue about lifeās purpose given capitalism or European society is alien to many communities especially a traditionally hunter gatherer one like aborigines. Is the notion they had no purpose and meaning is through a western spectrum? I think thatās specific to native societies although thereās plenty of first nations thriving in the US and Canada, so too broad a stroke from you there.