Lads. I said thatâs enough
âLadsâ ???
âLadsâ ???
Sure thatâs just petrol on the fire now
7 Likes
The only one whoâs gotten angry is you
I didnât say anyone got angry. Youâre not reading the posts at all. Take your time and read through them.
Youre blatantly lying here.
Where did I say trans right issues are made up?
Iâm saying you did. Jesus
So which rights donât they have in Ireland again? The right for a child to get a sex change is all you could muster. Iâm absolutely against that
Ah youâre still rushing. Take your time. Did you mean âIâm not sayingâ instead of âIâm sayingâ?
Lapsed poster @Cicero_Dandi had a wonderful post about transgender people a few years back.
It was something like âif I climbed up on a roof and said I can fly and jumped off people wouldnât rush to pick me up and say we need to get this man wings he is a bird. Theyâd say this man is mentally ill and he needs help.â
People who want their balls chopped off need help not surgery.
1 Like
Ah here:
Esteban: Youâre blatantly lying. I didnât say that
Rocko: [Screenshot of Esteban saying that]
Esteban: Whatabout this other thing over here�
1 Like
No youâre quite clearly angry.
Why else would you call me a bigot, on this issue.
Youâre actually doing a great job of proving my point
Which rights?
Step away for a while. Youâve made an absolute mess of your own argument. You canât keep pretending you didnât say what you said. You canât keep trying to change the discussion and expect me to follow you around. Youâve embarrassed yourself. Thatâs ok. Youâve done that before.
I said what I said and you got so outraged you called me a bigot. Theyâre equating their issues to human rights abuse.
I stand over what I said.
Itâs impossible to discuss anything with someone who is permanently outraged
Well thatâs a stunning development because not 10 minutes ago you denied having said it and said I was a liar for suggesting you did.
I admire your flexibility of opinion. Itâs great to be so fluid with something so binary. Almost trans like.
Expert or not if you debate these points and stray from the activists line of thought you are accused of being a transphobe. Write an article discussing these issues or concerns and youre a transphobe. Twitter and social media in general have been weaponised to shut down debate and leave people in their own bubbles. Not just on this issue. As someone said here earlier itâs going to do more harm than good in the long term.
If you havenât read the letter Rowling wrote Iâd suggest you do. You wonât agree with all of it. I didnât. But I didnât see anything bigoted or outrageous in it. And then go look at the responses on Twitter etc. Itâs totally out of proportion and over the top⌠especially the âchoke on my lady dickâ types of response of which there is many.
Some lad from Elizabeth Warrens campaign was tweeting basically calling Rowling a cunt. A trans woman responded backing up Rowling and he called her an uncle Tom. Thatâs where we are at now.
3 Likes
You can find morons on both sides of any debate on Twitter. Selecting one sideâs morons as an example of moronic behaviour ignores the fact there are usually the same sort of moron on the other side.
I donât think Iâve commented on JK Rowlingâs comments or the responses at all. I have read what she wrote. Iâve said already I donât think everything is as clear cut for everyone as people on both sides of the debate would claim it is.
Like I said, itâs strange to see people getting so worked up about something that doesnât really affect them at all. And some people do it because they are cranks, some are bigots, some want to be offended by everything. You get all sorts. And it is hard to navigate a path that wonât offend a lot of people (some or many of whom, shouldnât be offended).
All that being said, I do think there is plenty of transphobia. And some of it is very evident on here. At least thatâs been exposed now and people wonât be able to hide behind fake concern for FGM again.
Donât make me use exclamation
What I said isnât what you think I said.
Youâre too busy screaming bigot because youâve already made your mind up.
Thatâs the automatic stance of everybody who debates this topic and sees something they donât agree with.
Trans issues are not human rights infringements in Ireland. There are legitimate issues and need discussion, but they categorically are not human rights abuses. However its impossible to discuss the topic because if you disagree with anything youâre called a transphobe or a bigot. Which youâve demonstrated perfectly here.
I havenât said anything transphobic on this thread but youâve projected a bigotry on me because you donât like the fact I disagree with their activism and the strength with which the activists react to any debate.
I want equality.
Here.
Hang on, this isnât that great
I know
I want more and youâre a bigot for not giving it to me
What?