Uk affairs, The Double Lizzie Crisis (Part 1)

Yes!

No is the simple answer. Small farms not a viable business but still a generation or more away from people completely walking away from it. Primarily because of the support available. It’s providing a huge subsidy to areas that there would be little or no replacement employment for.

Far from ideal, and the government isn’t really doing anything to wean people off this tit but it is what it is.

I wonder does Tim still think this wasn’t a political crime. Did the witnesses in court mishear in the same way as the witnesses of the crime itself? Is his involvement with an extremist political grouping and his collection of far right symbols just as speculative as it was a couple of days ago. Now that the media have been reporting the same story for a few days just when will it be acceptable for the Guardian to follow suit?

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I’m not sure that classing it as a political crime isn’t giving too much weight to the paranoid delusions of a mentally ill individual. Your point is taken however.

Obviously he’s mentally ill. But that’s not unique in a murderer - I guess it’s more common than not. But I didn’t get up on my high horse about an article commenting on the political links. I was just pointing out the folly of that. Anyway, I’m 100% match focused now.

Rocko you really are a bit dense. I didn’t say this wasn’t a political crime, not once.

No you weren’t, you were defending your beloved Guardian. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of them making it political immediately when they will always plead “restraint”. They did so as it suited their agenda this time out. I’m surprised your reading comprehension is this poor.

? Where did I say it wasn’t a political crime? Again in the immediate aftermath I was the first to say this could damage the Leave campaign if he really was a Britain First member.

Is the Guardian an anti-Irish facilitating newspaper?

Newspaper of the liberal fascist gang.

? It’s more a comment on the hypocrisy of the Guardian.

They made 250 redundant this week.

Guardian is a Communist publication.

A filthy rag. Made lots of money from advertising meaningless public service jobs when labour were in power.

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Meaningless isn’t the word for it. The Labour councils were spending other people’s money on non jobs to an outrageous degree.

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It’s refreshing to see you still arguing away in a debate you lost a few days ago. Must be nearly time to change your mind again.

What was the argument Rocko?

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Cameron getting it now on BBC1 on question time

this an unreal performance