Uk affairs, The Double Lizzie Crisis (Part 1)

a load of leftie cunts planted in the audience to try and take him out, and he’s sending them home with tea in their mug

David Cameron is unreal, imagine that leprechaun kenny trying to do something like this, thinking on his feet

unreal anecdote about driving on the motorway without brakes, its unreal how good he is

this is absolutely unreal the performance he is putting in here

He’s the best prime minister ye’ve had since Churchill. Unreal public speaker and always fierce clever about being seen to do the right thing. Except that time he was photographed with his penis in a dead pigs mouth. That was an error of judgement but he recovered from it.

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Meanwhile in Wales…

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The pig didn’t.

Nice story, but completely made up.

Up there with this one

What a piece of fucking shit, shouldn’t see the light of day again.

Butler’s effort to regain custody of Ellie had included an extraordinary press campaign by the former PR guru Max Clifford and was successful in spite of warnings from the child’s grandfather and the local council.
Neal Gray, 70, who had cared for Ellie since she was 10 weeks old, spent all of his £70,000 savings fighting Butler in the courts. It can be reported for the first time that he warned Mrs Justice Hogg, the high court judge who ruled on returning Ellie to her father in 2012, that she would have “blood on her hands” if she did so.

The Judge. :expressionless:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgeRp8fYYmc

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The judge there that sent the child back to the family Ms Justice Hogg, is a classic product of the British Conservative privilege system. She’s the daughter of Quintin Hogg, better known as vile Tory grandee Lord Hailsham and sister of another vile Tory Douglas Hogg. She is the grand daughter of yet another vile Tory, the first Viscount Hailsham, who was Lord Chancellor in his day.

With such a background of privilege it is scarcely surprising that judging a real life situation was well beyond her abilities.

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Wasn’t it one of those Hoggs who made a comment in parliament about the solicitor Pat Finucane a few days before he was murdered?

In fairness to Hogg, the experts couldn’t say whether the child’s injuries were due to a congenital illness or abuse. That said, she went far beyond the scope of her powers by effectively banning further social work intervention which may have saved the child and because of that she does have blood on her hands. But social services should have fought that part tooth and nail.

As for the parents, the father should have just been dragged from the court after his conviction and been put down for the mongrel he is. The mother will have to live with the results of her inaction forever.

The same fellow alright. He later achieved further notoriety as the man who claimed the cost of cleaning his moat as a parliamentary expense. He was rewarded for his lifetimes endeavour with a seat in the House of Lords in 2015 by fellow old Etonian David Cameron, who had also previously excused Hoggs unfortunate remarks about Pat Finucane.

The funny thing is the clowns in the UK think they live in a democracy.

I’ve heard the same story about Irish & Indians (US kind).

she even got judge of the week after the trial…

and said “‘It is seldom that I see a “happy end”. It is a joy to oversee the return of a child to her parents.’”. Wonder how she feels now about it. This was more than just a fuck up, there was serious amounts of warnings about it. Surely hearing a grandparent express his concerns about his own child would send a lot of doubt.

I read up on quite a bit of the day by day this morning. The mother is just as bad in my opinion. She continued to lie relentlessly throughout the trial & came across as an immature teenager. She trested her own parents dreadfully. Many will point to her being the classic battered wife with a controlling husband but it goes way beyond that in my opinion. The pair of them sound like total scum in their day to day actions.

Additionally, Max Clifford was engaged in their “justice” campaign. If you go back and look at the media around the time they got the child back you will see a very polished performance from them. The judge deserves a lot of stick but when you have a case thrown out against a guy and the woman standing so resolutely behind the man then it’s easy to put the blinkers on. That’s a part of the job though and she is going to have to live with her actions now for the rest of her life.

The Hoggs have shown a great propensity for living with the consequences of their actions throughout the history of their malevolent little dynasty so I’d expect she’ll get over it.

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The media & co. wanted the story at the time to seem like a great injustice with a happy ending, watch this. The guy was a classic controlling psychopath but the woman is as bad. Her neighbours and his previous abusve behaviours point to him being physically abusive to her in the relationship;

Her diaries suggest this but she lied throughout the trial to protect him. My impression is a person desperate for the other one to love her back but she never got that. She continues to look for that today and gets little in return. She has an immature view of the idyllic relationship and ignores the realities. She was a feckless moron with two abortions in 2011 and 2013 and their neighbours saying the pair would come home pissed regularly. Her own father seems to hold more disdain for her than the guy in question.

I suppose her father is just gone past the point where he warned both her and the judge enough of times and knows this could have been prevented. He knew what the husband was like and did what he could. Hindsight and all that for the media, but within the case itself there is no hindsight, there was clear evidence then and plenty of warnings. It’s not as if there was a clear miscarriage of justice.