Tis a big enough drop alright. There are a lot of factors at play. Less enthusiasm is one factor but voter suppression is another.
Itâs more like 3 million according to the CNN Magic Wall thingy, 74.9 million to 71.8 for Kamala.
Trump got 50.2% of the overall vote.
How many people did trump kill during Covid
And surely the other side tried to cheat too. If they didnât theyre absolute fuckwits
The only states harris won were those that didnât require voter i.d. You have to wonder
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Bullshit.
Only one side tries to cheat. Democrats have however been extremely negligent in affirming voting rights across the US.
These lines you see at polling stations in the US are a fucking scandal. That in itself is a massive driver of poor turnout. Doesnât happen in Ireland or in any other civilised country.
The âtwo bald men fighting over a combâ analogy comes to mind here
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2020 may have been a bit of an anomaly, with Biden topping 81m and Trump 75m. Even Trump will get less than that this time. If you look at the numbers in a historical graph, 2020 shoots way up and 2024 is more like a return to the norm.
As to why, Covid was almost certainly a factor, as many states made it much easier to vote by mail. A lot of those measures have been rolled back since and on top of that in many Republican controlled states requirements to register to vote and vote on polling day have been made stricter. This is under the guise of cracking down on âvoter fraudâ but in reality is plain voter suppression, the more hurdles you put in front on someone when registering to vote the more attrition you will get. That attrition generally tends to disproportionally affect demographics that are more likely to vote democrat.
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You havenât a clue what Iâm doing.
Neither have you apparently.
Youâre the king of the one liners which make no sense.
Maybe if you think about it a bit longer?
When you were asked what Harris should do about Israel, you responded with a proposal which is basically the exact same as what she actually did.
You are well to the right of me on this and the irony is that you actually do sound like one of these ârealistâ fools, except on Israel not Russia.
Youâre unable to separate two things. i) What should be done in a moral sense. ii) What can be done if youâre to have any hope at all of winning an election.
i) is far more important to me. You do the right thing. Thatâs the most important thing.
As it turned out, ii) - which you not only supported but actually proposed - was a failure on two counts - the moral one, and the cynical, letâs win the election one.
You continue to be completely oblivious as to the effect of the Israeli propaganda machine on US society. What happened to Corbyn was a spectacular demonstration of how it works. Itâs ten times worse in the US.
Iâm well to the right of you 
hilarious.
I genuinely think youâre talking through your hole. Youâve said no other US President could have acted differently to Biden. Completely incorrect and in fact a totally warped view. I gave a very short line on what how Harris should have shown difference to Biden on Israel, youâre also wrong on that, she showed zero difference.
You keep presenting yourself as a ârealistâ, which is classic neolib nonsense tactic.
You said Harris would lose the entire Jewish vote if she showed separation from Biden on middle east policy, which shows your grasp of things to be pretty childish.
What actually turned out is that you were completely wrong on Harris and middle east policy and the effect it would have on her outcomes in the election. Greater separation from Bidenâs policy would have been to her benefit. Itâs ok, she and her team and others who present themselves as âsensibleâ and "realistsâ got it wrong too. Iâm sure you wonât admit that because you are never able to reassess when youâve been wrong.
I didnât say that.
No other US president would have acted differently to Biden.
Basic reading comprehension failure.
I didnât bother reading beyond that.
Utterly wrong delusional nonsense, Mr. Ostrich.
Project, project!
Itâs Nigel Pearson!
Your starting point is a loaded presumption and you refuse to look past it. Iâm sure you see how ridiculous a position that is to base any discussion on.
Your attempts at points throughout this discussion have made no sense at all.
No offence but you havenât a clue what youâre on about.