Can you explain why Latinos women or even the small percentage of blacks voted for trump. Was it due to internalised oppression and the nefarious influence of the patriarchy or what. Or would you agree that there were other issues more important to members of these groups who voted for trump?
Pinkos are highlighting racist incidents post election and after brexit . You would swear the us and uk were multicultural shangrilas before each vote .
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Another thing we are being bombarded with stats are to how all sort of demographics groups . Is it POLLING COMPANIES who are providing these figures ???
Exit polls, generally fairly reliable.
@anon7035031 What would have happened if the election ended in a tie? I think it would have had to have been 269-269 each, Is that even possible?
Hillary Clinton is not Barack Obama. The only valid comparison with 2012 figures would be if Obama had been running against Trump.
Given Obamaâs unique historical status as both the first black candidate in 2008 and the first black President in 2012, it was always highly likely heâd get a massive majority of the ethnic minority vote, which should have been expected to return to more normal levels of percentage in an election between two white candidates. But it didnât.
If race was not a factor in Trumpâs popularity, he should have been considerably improving on Romneyâs percentage figures among ethnic minorites, at least something approaching George W. Bushâs 41% figure among Latinos in 2004, which he didnât get near.
Clintonâs turnout among minorities being down on Obamaâs means the percentage figures may rise very slightly for Trump as a result, but not his actual numbers.
Trumpâs margin of 67-28 among whites without a college degree is another key statistic.
He won that category by more than any Republican candidate for 36 years and by a considerably higher margin than John McCain or Mitt Romney did against Obama. McCain and Romney were not overtly racist candidates and were were running against a black candidate. Trump was running against a white candidate and yet did better. Something has to have changed and the answer is clearly that he has a woken a latent prejudice against ethnic minorities that wasnât there to nearly the same extent in 2008 or 2012, and that the other white candidate, Clinton, so clearly wasnât running on.
Also, bare numbers alone are completely inadequate in measuring Trumpâs appeal to race. The fervency among the whites that supported him is something that cannot be measured as it is based on emotion. Only the rhetoric, the slurs, the chants, the ignorance, the appeals to revenge, the almost hysterical enthusiasm and anger that prevailed can explain that. These arenât measurable qualities, they can only be observed and evaluated on an internal level.
The rhetoric is no longer covert, itâs out there in the open. Trump has undeniably been by far the most racist presidential candidate in modern US history. There have been numerous reports of a wave of hate crimes against minorities since the election, just like they did after Brexit.
There is a multitude of evidence out there to show that Trumpâs support was hugely motivated by race. Even within the Republican primaries, his supporters had the most negative views towards ethnic minorities of any of the candidates.
Had a candidate like John Kasich, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie or Marco Rubio been elected, there would not have been the same sort of protests as there have been since Trumpâs election.
Michael Tesler, a professor at the University of California Irvine, took a look at racial resentment scores among Republican primary voters in the past three GOP primaries. In 2008 and 2012, Tesler found, Republican voters who scored higher were less likely to vote for the eventual winner. The more racial bias you harbored, the less likely you were to vote for Mitt Romney or John McCain.
With Trump, the opposite was the case. The more a person saw black people as lazy and undeserving, the more likely they were to vote for the self-proclaimed billionaire.
Tesler found similar effects on measures of anti-Hispanic and anti-Muslim prejudice. This shows that Trump isnât drawing support from the same type of Republicans who were previously picking the partyâs winners. Heâs mobilizing a new Republican coalition, one dominated by the voters whose political attitudes are driven by prejudice.
âThe partyâs growing conservatism on matters of race and ethnicity provided fertile ground for Trumpâs racial and ethnic appeals to resonate in the primaries,â Tesler wrote in the Washington Post in August. âSo much so, in fact, that Donald Trump is the first Republican in modern times to win the partyâs presidential nomination on anti-minority sentiments.â
Multiple other studies have supported Teslerâs findings. An April Pew survey looked at whether Republicans had âwarmâ or âcoldâ feelings toward Trump and how they felt about the census projection that the US would be majority nonwhite in 30 years.
It found that 33 percent of Republicans thought this shift would be âbad for the country.â These people were also overwhelmingly likely to feel warmly rather than coolly about Trump, by a 63-to-26 margin.
The following is from the conclusion of a 2014 Duke University study:
Despite decades of arguments and evidence suggesting that white identity is a meaningless construct, I provide preliminary evidence that when their groupâs status is challenged, members of dominant groups, in this case white Americans do in fact embrace their ingroup identity in large numbers and bring it to bear on their political preferences. Furthermore, I show that the extent of self-conscious identification may be captured with explicit survey questions, and that items gauging the importance and strength of identity are particularly suitable and effective for this purpose.
More importantly for political science, in this paper, I provide a preponderance of evidence that white identity is a meaningful antecedent of political attitudes. The results of the over-time ANES analysis suggest that as levels of immigration to the U.S. sharply increased, so did the extent to which whites brought their identity to bear on their attitudes toward immigration. Furthermore, I show that there is strong evidence linking identity to a variety of political evaluations in the present-day.
White identity is significantly related to political evaluations in domains where whitesâ status is threatened like immigration policy as well as to policies associated with benefitting whites as a group like Social Security and Medicare. In fact, white identity appears to be sufficiently powerful that it was a significant predictors of vote choice in the 2012 election. High white identifiers were more likely to report voting for Mitt Romney and more likely to believe that Barack Obama favors blacks over whites.
The results of an experiment in which whites were exposed to information about shifts in the racial make-up of the country suggest that white identifiers are responding especially negatively to the notion that they will be displaced as a group. High white identifiers reported feeling angry and especially afraid after reminders of their impending displacement as the majority, indicating that individuals do identify with their racial group feel measurable concern over their groupâs status.
Yes, itâs very possible as there are 538 electoral votes.
It would go to the House of Representatives where each state get one vote, and a majority of 26 needed to win. Trump would win easily in that scenario, which makes a further mockery of the pinko wankers calling for abolition of the electoral college.
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Iâm sober, mate.
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I donât have as much time on my hands as you.
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dimwit
this is actually a raping at this stage
Ben Carson to be secretary of education. A fucking creationist.
Shithole of a country.
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Just 58% of whites voted for Donald and according to the intolerant and the outraged that is racism.
95% of blacks voted Obama but that wasnât racism?.
@Sidney
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He should get the Health Secretary job.
Thatâs not fair, youâre using facts.
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How does that make you feel Tossy mate?
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If you were to exclude politicians based on their nonsensical religious beliefs, thatâs pretty much everyone gone in the US, as they all claim some allegiance to one variety or another of god bothering.
I donât know if Carson will get the Education job or not, he seems a good candidate for Surgeon General. If he did get the Education job however, I would hope he could improve what is an appalling bad public school system, given the money thatâs spent on it.
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Do you understand irony you tan cunt .
a serious christian fundamentalists is Trumps no 2
Extraordinary stuff all this talk of what impact President Trump will have on Irish employment. Has there ever been a US President who has created as many jobs as President Trump?