US Presidential Election 2016: Sidney's Victory Lap

No Mac you are the first in with this fascinating piece of news.

[QUOTE=ā€œFitzy, post: 1159677, member: 236ā€]Clinton will win. Jeb(!) can run, but he canā€™t hide from the fact that heā€™s a Bush, ergo heā€™s a cunt. The GOP nutters will demand more and more right leaning shite from him and heā€™ll probably have to choose one of the circus acts as his running mate. They can try, but heā€™ll never be centre enough to win an election. Some here seem to be underestimating Clintonā€™s fundraising ability and sheā€™ll appeal to a more broader base than Jeb(!). Clinton will remind americans of the disaster that dubya was.
Not that Iā€™m a big fan of Hilary or anything, but anything is better than another Bush cunt.[/QUOTE]

You are seriously over estimating Clinton there.
Jeb has the Bush name which bizarrely is a big plus to some. The Latino vote, which normally would be democrat but is actually inclined to be republican, views wise (bar immigration), and heā€™ll have just as good a money machine behind him.
Anyway itā€™s like choosing between Kodos and Kang. Greatest democracy in the world my bollox.

Mickey Mouse could run for the Republicans and still get c 50% of the vote.

Youā€™re late to this party. I have him at 8-1 since last November when his candidacy was previously mentioned on this site. I canā€™t see him lose the Republican nomination race and, as you say, I canā€™t see the Americans voting in sufficient numbers for Hilary, who seems to be a given to win the Democrat nomination.

He is indeed the only president to hold that odd distinction.

  1. Economy wonā€™t be in recession.
  2. Heā€™s correct that you have to be moderate to win the general. No real evidence that GOP primary voters have accepted that, or are willing to prioritise winning over idealogical purity. As an aside, the latter is usually a characteristic of the fissiparous left, but the tea party nuts have flipped things in the States.
  3. No reason at all that Hillary canā€™t win.

Chris Christie would look to me to be a far better candidate for the Republicans than Jeb Bush.

There are many things a politician will be forgiven for. Deliberately causing a major traffic jam during rush hour may not be one of them though.

What hurts him more is heā€™s fat as fuck

Surely that would be seen as a good thing?

Canā€™t remember the last fat as fuck president

None since Taft Iā€™d say.

Big Bill Taft yea. Fat was in then

Monica Lewinsky?

[QUOTE=ā€œbraz83, post: 1160114, member: 390ā€]1. Economy wonā€™t be in recession.
2. Heā€™s correct that you have to be moderate to win the general. No real evidence that GOP primary voters have accepted that, or are willing to prioritise winning over idealogical purity. As an aside, the latter is usually a characteristic of the fissiparous left, but the tea party nuts have flipped things in the States.
3. No reason at all that Hillary canā€™t win.[/QUOTE]

While the exact date of the next recession is hard/improbable to predict, what we know is that the average time span between recessions is 7 years and the last one was in 2008. There are some economists, although they are in the minority, who think the US is already in a shallow recession. Keeping in mind of course that economists are about as reliable as weathermen in their predictions, and that economies are already in recession before the data confirms it. What we do know is that economic activity is slowing, and while Q1 was blamed on weather (strangely enough it snowed in the Northeast), it doesnā€™t look like Q2 will be much better. The consumer is saving and not borrowing/spending, and who can blame them, so the engine of the US economy will continue to slow as more baby boomers either retire or work part time.
The GOP for all the bluster and bullshit of the tea party have selected moderate candidates, Bush, McCain and Romney were all moderates by Republican standards. McCain lost because of Bush 2 and the 2008 recession, Romney lost because people didnā€™t really warm to him (the likability factor) and Obama was perceived as having done an OK job in his first term.
Hillary could win against a poor Republican candidate, McCain for example, but she is unlikely to win against a strong Republican candidate. Jeb is by far the strongest Republican candidate as he will be seen as a Washington outsider (as Bill Clinton was) at a time when Washington is regarded by the electorate as poisonous / useless and needs an outsider to sort things out i.e. get the two parties to work together for the good of the country, something Obama has failed miserably at.

He should run for the Democrats. He might get a better ethnic vote.

Possibly. But he blocked the traffic somewhere last year for political reasons.,

Walt wouldnā€™t have approved of him being a blue.

Is Paul Ryan considered a viable candidate at all?

TJ Ryan is more viable