US Presidential Election 2024 - Here comes Agent Orange Elect

The Dems lost the election once they replaced Joe with his right hand woman.

Itā€™s a fairly depressing that they couldnā€™t find two competent candidates with any modicum of moral standards needed to beat a Trump/Vance ticket.

Iā€™ll repeat, America is fucked.

So no argument form the guy who openly eulogises the black slave owning Confederates.

A lot of people here say ā€œAmerica is fuckedā€. Much fewer ever expand as to why.

This old trope again? :joy:

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Of course you do, his political mentor is a guy who says Anders Behring Breivik didnā€™t go far enough.

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You openly believe the wrong side won the US Civil War.

You donā€™t think the States would be better off independent entities today? You wouldnā€™t have all that stress for one.

Take your clamping.

Is this you?

Thatā€™s not a clamping, you claimed I was ā€œeulogisingā€ pro slavery of blacks maybe you donā€™t understand the meaning of the word? You also dodged the question if the States would be better off as individual self governing entities because you know the answer is yes.

America is fucked because itā€™s democracy has been captured by donors. Rich elites, Israelis, corporate institutions etc. All acting against the interests of the American people.

Itā€™s not even expensive to buy them and you donā€™t even have to hide it.

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You eulogise Robert E. Lee and the Confederacy.

What sort of absolute freak of an Irish person eulogises Robert E. Lee and the Confederacy which fought to uphold slavery?

Thereā€™s always one, as they say. Or on this forum, about 20 lunatics.

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I believe I stated Robert E Lee was a figure to be commended in his role for ensuring a prolonged guerilla war wouldnā€™t continue to ravage on but that doesnā€™t suit what youā€™re attempting to bracket me into here. Of course no surprise you continue to avoid my question, I know Iā€™m right in my answer mate, as do you.

Robert Lee was a decent player for Newcastle

I had a neighbour named Bobby Lee, was a decent skin must be a recurring theme.

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I see Trump is creeping ahead in the betting. :roll_eyes:

Thatā€™s part of it. Democrats are far from entirely innocent in all that but Republicans are overwhelmingly responsible for most of the negative effects of it.

The Republicans realised 60 years ago that the way to win was to use rich peopleā€™s money to flood the zone with bullshit, from every angle, from everywhere, on every possible topic. To disinform and to divide. Weā€™re now coming to the climax of that strategy. The logical endpoint of that strategy is holocaust.

The information environment in which we now exist has turbo charged this dynamic. Itā€™s basically impossible now to have a discussion about American politics anywhere on the internet without a load of racist trolls hijacking everything. This forum is as affected by that as anywhere else.

Those racist trolls have massively impacted how American politics is covered. Even the New York Times and Washington Post etc. frame most of their coverage through language favourable to Trump, in a similar manner to how almost all western coverage Israelā€™s genocide is framed through language favourable to Israel.

A full on organised barrage of abuse works in influencing coverage, because it makes the media scared, and because individuals like an easy life.

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Yeah you think he should be commended because youā€™re a racist fuckwit.

I hope thereā€™s enough room for posters of Rommel on your wall. Presumably another figure ā€œto be commendedā€. Maybe Cromwell too?

Coming from the genocide apologist himself, gotta love the hypocrisy.

Rub your eye to this classic diddy @Cheasty

Youā€™re just making shit up now.

Thereā€™s no difference between you and the other racist trolls here to the likes of Eylon Levy or Hen Mazzig or any of these American far right or pro-Israel or pro-Russia propagandists who want to burn the world in service to the oppression of any brown or non-far right ā€œChristianā€ or Jewish people they donā€™t like.