Fact: I went socialising at least four times circa 2002-2003 with a group of people of which contained Lorraine Higgins and her brother…
The attacks on Mary Lou are particularly amusing.
http://www.rte.ie/news/player/2015/0202/20720498-soft-deadline-day-for-irish-water-registration/
Go on…
Is she as thick as that interview would suggest Sid?
[QUOTE=“TreatyStones, post: 1085195, member: 1786”]Lorraine Higgins: “Everybody will receive a bill, notwithstanding whether they’ register or not, in April. And I do believe…”
Gavin Jennings: “Sorry, I’m confused. What allowances will you not get if you don’t register by today.”
Higgins: “Well there are certain allowances for children that have to be taken into account and if you don’t register by today, by midnight tonight…”
Jennings: “What allowances?”
Higgins: “Well there are certain allowances Gavin, right across the board, for children, in terms of capacity, the number of litres that you get on an annual basis and I would urge your listeners…”
Jennings: “I thought you were being billed irrespective of how much you use, isn’t that right? I thought it was dependent how many people were in the house.”
Higgins: “That’s correct.”
Jennings: “We’ve constantly been told that it’s a simple matter of, you can reiterate if you want, of how much you pay for one person, how much you pay for more than one person. So, what don’t you get if you don’t register by today?”
Higgins: “That’s correct. It’s costing €3 per week and it’s very important to ensure the quality of our water in the future and I know from dealing with people in clinics, Gavin, that you know they don’t have the same degree of difficulty as they had prior to this new range of measures that was brought in by the Government…”
Jennings: “Sorry, just to be clear, sorry, today’s deadline, again. If people don’t register, and plenty haven’t, what don’t they get if don’t register by today?”
Higgins: “Well, you know the department of the environment has come out very clearly and said that there may be a situation where there’d be added cost on to the price of paying for water for this year.”
Jennings: “What added cost?”
Higgins: “That hasn’t been clarified yet and I await to find out what that will be. There will probably be a lot of discussion over the course of the coming week in relation to it.”
Jennings: “So, just to be clear, if you don’t register by today, what happens?”
Higgins: “If you don’t register by today, there will be, there will be a situation where you’ll be given optimal time to actually register, right up…”
Jennings: “So you’ll be given more time, yes?”
Higgins: “It seems to but to be clear, the minister has always stated from the outset and indeed even last week, that the second of February [today] was not a dropdead deadline.”
Jennings: “So, if I’m not sure if I want to register to pay for Irish Water, you’re going to give me more, I’m going to be given more time, I don’t have to do it today, is that right?”
Higgins: “Well it’s very important for people to register today…”
Jennings: “But I don’t have to do it today. I’m not really going to face any problems if I don’t do it today, is that right?”
Higgins: “Well the situation is, and as I said, a release from the department with regard to possible penalties and that needs to be borne in mind.”
Jennings: “What possible penalties?”
Higgins: “There’s no clarity on that, right at this moment, Gavin.”
Jennings: “OK.”
Higgins: “But I wouldn’t be advocating that people break the law like Mary Lou (McDonald, Sinn Féin TD) seems to be doing. I think it’s interesting, her position, given…:
Jennings: “She’s talking about not paying, we were talking there about not registering. If I don’t pay and I know this is a hypothetical matter because the bills won’t arrive until April. If I don’t pay, what will happen to me?”
Higgins: “Well there’s a situation where there’ll be an exchange of information from the Revenue. We expect that there’ll be legislation brought in over the course of this month where it’ll be possible to put a charge on property. It’ll also be possible for landlords to bill their tenants and take it out of their deposits.”
Jennings: “Not yet though, no?”
Higgins: “Well this is something that’s going to be looked out over the course of this month and we hope to have legislation in place before the end of February.”
Jennings: “So, at the moment, if I decide I’m not going to pay, you don’t know what’s going to happen to me yet, is that right?”
Higgins: “Well that’s the position right now but as soon as the legislation is prepared and brought before the Houses of the Oireachtas, it will be expected that there will be a charge put on people’s properties and landlords will be permitted to take the cost of water out of a tenant’s deposit.”
Jennings: “How much of a charge do you think should be put on people’s property if they don’t pay?”
Higgins: “I can’t say that, Gavin and I’m not going to speculate on that.”
Jennings: “But you’re one of the…you’re a member of a party who’ll be legislating for it, what’s your opinion?”
Higgins: “Well I haven’t given it significant thought but I would urge people that’s important not to break the law, I wouldn’t be throwing it around, the populist line that Sinn Féin currently are, you can see how Mary Lou stuttered and stammered over the issue about how she was going to pay for water and how the Government would pay for water in terms of taxation.”
Jennings: “You can’t tell me what would happen if I don’t pay for water.”
Higgins: “Well these are decisions that’ll be made by the Government, Gavin.”
Jennings: “But they haven’t been made yet. There’s a deadline in place for today to register. The bills are going to arrive in April and we still don’t know what’s going to happen if people don’t pay.”
Higgins: “Well I’ve made it very, very clear that there will be a charge put on property and landlords will be permitted to take the price of Irish Water out of deposits.”
Jennings: “Senator Higgins, a large number of people haven’t registered today, thousands of people have protested on the streets and are continuing to do so, there’s no grant in place yet, the amount of income that Irish Water is going to get as a result of people paying bills has already been lowered. There’s no guarantee of passing the Eurostat test, no clarity on what landlords are expected to do, if their tenants don’t pay. What part of this plan has been a success so far?”
Higgins: “First and foremost, I don’t share your view Gavin when it comes to the numbers that have registered. There’s almost 1.1million that have responded – that’s 60% of where it needs to be. And there’s quite a large number…”
Jennings: “There’s a million people who haven’t.”
Higgins: “But look I mean, as I said, the second of February, isn’t a dropdead deadline, you know…”
Jennings: “The first deadline was last year, a million people still haven’t registered.”
Higgins: “Mistakes were made last year, there’s no question of that, we’ve held our hands up to that but all you’ve to do is look at the protests over the weekend, you know, the numbers were significantly down.”
Jennings: “What part of the policy, so far, has been a success?”
Higgins: “Look we’ve had difficulties, any time you’re trying to set up a new utility, it’s going to present some degree of difficulty. And I think you will acknowledge that.”
Jennings: “But has there been any success yet?”
Higgins: “Of course there’s been success. You can see the silent majority that have paid, or have registered rather, to pay the water charge, at 1.1million as it stands.”[/QUOTE]
Irish politics at its very, very best there… fucking hell. That wouldn’t be out of place in an episode of Father Ted.
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Was the mad cunt more or less saying that revenue are getting involved and eventually they will be able to take it from your wages? What a country.
Yes. She provided tonnes of ammunition to sustain the anti-water charges parties in one floundering interview.
She’s certainly filled out a bit anyway.
She came across as reasonably intelligent but in a book smart way, I think she was a trainee solicitor at the time. I would have had her down as a Fine Gael type. She has been an utter car crash in the media since I first saw her interviewed on Vincent Browne circa 2011.
The cunt who was hounding Michael D recently was at it in a Housing Estate in Cashel today. Protesters blocked workers fitting a meter outside a house when the occupant was out. Sounds okay, but the occupant had registered with Irish Water and was happy to have the meter fitted. Anyway, Tipperary ( :rolleyes: ) Against Water Charges posted a video on Facebook of protesters outside the unattended house much to the annoyance of the owner & her extended family. When the homeowners asked for the video to be taken down, a pile of cunts began abusing the family members. These cunts shouting them down weren’t even from Cashel. They refused to take the video down, before deleting the House owners complaints.
These protesters are some shower of itinerant crusty useless cunts. :mad:
[QUOTE=“carryharry, post: 1085626, member: 1517”]The cunt who was hounding Michael D recently was at it in a Housing Estate in Cashel today. Protesters blocked workers fitting a meter outside a house when the occupant was out. Sounds okay, but the occupant had registered with Irish Water and was happy to have the meter fitted. Anyway, Tipperary ( :rolleyes: ) Against Water Charges posted a video on Facebook of protesters outside the unattended house much to the annoyance of the owner & her extended family. When the homeowners asked for the video to be taken down, a pile of cunts began abusing the family members. These cunts shouting them down weren’t even from Cashel. They refused to take the video down, before deleting the House owners complaints.
These protesters are some shower of itinerant crusty useless cunts. :mad:[/QUOTE]
none of the above story is true
[QUOTE=“carryharry, post: 1085626, member: 1517”]The cunt who was hounding Michael D recently was at it in a Housing Estate in Cashel today. Protesters blocked workers fitting a meter outside a house when the occupant was out. Sounds okay, but the occupant had registered with Irish Water and was happy to have the meter fitted. Anyway, Tipperary ( :rolleyes: ) Against Water Charges posted a video on Facebook of protesters outside the unattended house much to the annoyance of the owner & her extended family. When the homeowners asked for the video to be taken down, a pile of cunts began abusing the family members. These cunts shouting them down weren’t even from Cashel. They refused to take the video down, before deleting the House owners complaints.
These protesters are some shower of itinerant crusty useless cunts. :mad:[/QUOTE]
Spoof.
The Crusties don’t like it up them. 
Two of the water charge protestors are now on hunger strike in Wheatfield prison, they have stated they won’t eat again until they are released. :rolleyes:
T
surely a thirst strike would have been more appropriate
A debate on Prime Time on the water debate here with Barry Cowen and some other fella who i don’t know. The reason i bumped this is because i want it on record that i called Barry Cowen a painful bollocks. He’s ten times worse than his brother. An unbearable bollocks of the worst kind.
Edit: Derek Nolan is the fella he debated with and to be fair he mopped the floor with Nolan who just didn’t have the cuntishness to compete with him.
[QUOTE=“Tess Tickle, post: 1098668, member: 2269”]A debate on Prime Time on the water debate here with Barry Cowen and some other fella who i don’t know. The reason i bumped this is because i want it on record that i called Barry Cowen a painful bollocks. He’s ten times worse than his brother. An unbearable bollocks of the worst kind.
Edit: Derek Nolan is the fella he debated with and to be fair he mopped the floor with Nolan who just didn’t have the cuntishness to compete with him.[/QUOTE]
Tess, I disagree with you over certain things but you are spot on here. Cowen junior is an awful bollocks. Kept interrupting and barely let Nolan get his point across. Some brass neck after what his brother overseen.
Don’t think Cowen wiped the floor with him, he definitely came across as the more unlikeable of the two. (I’d never heard of this Nolan chap before tonight)
Miriam just can’t conduct debates of this nature. She was awful.
Cowen won hands down. Miriam is dreadful. Nolan is piss poor and weak.
Offaly have their own constituency in next election for first time ever. 3 seater with only 2 current TDs, Cowen FF and FG Marcella Corcoran Kennedy who I’ve never heard anything from on a national level. This has always been strong FF territory so I reckoned the last seat would be between them and SF. They seem to have decided to run only one candidate though. Surprised, esp considering that the prime SF candidate recently decided not to run.
That FG guy came across as completely out of ideas and brainless.
His only argument was that Anything that Cowen said was wrong.
Whether or not that is true, it really is a silly argument. Fine Gael remind me of Liverpool with Noonan in the Suarez role. They seem strong, but when you take out the star performer, it really exposes the weakness and lack of talent in the team / party.