I don’t know why anyone would have an issue with Stags.
They are generally informal, relaxed affairs and you can come and go as you please.
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Jesus you’d want to be some snow flakes to be falling out about not getting mentioned in a speech.
Thankfully the majority of people are sound and cop on is used in such situations.
By the way nothing causes strife in families like money and land.
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I actually quite enjoy weddings but I only really accept invites to weddings where I feel I should be there, close friends, family etc…otherwise I find a way to politely opt out.
Best thing is to usually book a weekend away when the wedding is down for and there’s your opt out.
Stags again are fine if you know the people going and are happy enough with them as individuals. Wouldn’t be a big fan of activities, just tip away drinking, I usually find its the Dads trying to relive their youth which would melt your heads the most.
No.
Incessant whinging and bitching about handing over a few quid is the new thing these days.
Todays paper
Judge refuses to allow new case over field
Litigation between Joseph and Thomas Slattery has incurred ‘extraordinary’ costs
MARY CAROLAN Legal Affairs Correspondent
A judge has refused to allow a man pursue a fresh case against his brother with whom he has been locked in a bitter legal battle for more than a decade over ownership of a 4.5 acre field.The dispute between Joseph and Thomas Slattery concerns a 4.5 acre field in Lahinch and the protracted litigation since 2012 has incurred “extraordinary” legal costs compared with the value of the land, the High Court previously noted.
Joseph Slattery, representing himself, was made subject last July to an order preventing him initiating fresh litigation against his brother Thomas unless he had court permission.
He applied last month to the Court of Appeal for permission to bring an application seeking, inter alia, a miscarriage of justice certificate.
In a judgment published on Friday, Mr Justice Senan Allen refused permission on the basis the intended proceedings were vexatious and an abuse of court process.
Joseph Slattery was essentially trying to reopen the issue of ownership of the land, which was decided against him in 2014 and had been dealt with by 14 judges, the judge noted.
Alleging trespass
The litigation began in 2012 when Thomas Slattery took Circuit Court proceedings alleging trespass by Joseph Slattery on the lands.
Thomas Slattery said the lands were transferred to him by their parents, Matthew and Anne, via a deed dated December 1981. After their mother, the last surviving parent, died in December 2010, Thomas Slattery was registered as full owner of the disputed land.
In opposing the trespass claim, Joseph Slattery counterclaimed he was the legal owner of the lands.
The Circuit Court found in favour of Thomas Slattery, restrained trespass by Joseph Slattery and dismissed the counterclaim. Joseph Slattery lost appeals against that decision to the High Court and Court of Appeal.
Ownership determined
Further Circuit Court proceedings by Joseph Slattery seeking rectification of the title to the land to reflect his claim were struck out on the basis the ownership issue had been already determined.
In the interim, Thomas Slattery had in separate proceedings secured an order restraining Joseph Slattery trespassing on a 0.2 acre sliver of land adjoining the field, which had previously been part of the west Clare railway line.
Refusing permission for the latest action, Mr Justice Allen said Joseph Slattery was “plainly” trying to reopen the issue of ownership of the property which had been decided against him in May 2014.
The judge concurred with the Court of Appeal judgment of July 2022 finding against Joseph and with what had been “repeatedly said” by 14 other judges on the matter. The question of ownership of the lands was conclusively determined by the High Court in May 2014, which made orders permanently injuncting Joseph Slattery from trespassing on the lands, he said.
On foot of those and other findings, he refused permission to bring the action.
Wills which combine both of the above.
off to europe
The ringleader here would most certainly appear to be. Or else he is related to the worst shower of cunts imaginable.
where there’s a will, there’s a relative
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Where there’s a will there’s a mistake.
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Ah the proper scutting is always towards the latter stages I find. Once the babies are put the bed and the clowns are all tired out from fighting with each other or locals, then the handful or so left can have a proper laugh.
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Once you go over 4 max 5 people I find attending in a group in sufferable.
As an example I was due to go out last weekend. There was 3 of us and then it went to 8.
So I pulled out last minute. If it was any 3 of the 8 I wouldn’t have minded.
Not really Harry. Folk are only trying not to cause offence. I find it bizarre and upside down that wedding money is expected “to cover costs”. It’s your celebration and your party. You should provide food and drink for your guests and expect absolutely zero in return. £50 is considered a generous gift on the mainland. It’s just different. I was going to give £200 to a good pals daughter at her bat mitzvah recently and was told by him in no uncertain terms that £30 was the right amount, if anything, and no more. There was a free bar.
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In this day and age I’d be putting minimum €300 per couple into a card, personally I think it’s nice to contribute towards the cost of the wedding and leave them a few quid to enjoy however they see fit.
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And it’s nice if you to give it, but you should pay for your own wedding celebration if you decide to have one. Ireland is a strange outlier. To then look to take offense that a guest didn’t pay for their place is wrong.
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Forget about weddings. Confirmations is where the real money is these days and the kid has no “overheads” 
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madame said to me last night “tell everyone that i want vouchers for horseriding for my confirmation”. the look of joy when i told she could still get cash and buy the vouchers, and lemieux gear, for herself
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If I ever have a stag, I’d say it’ll be Friday pints, Saturday morning Parkrun, coffee & treats, Saturday afternoon, evening & night pints, Sunday morning 5 mile race, Sunday lunchtime coffee & brunch, Sunday afternoon home to your families.
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Where does spying on Brian Fenton fit into that jammed pack schedule?
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