Níl fhios agam ach ní bheadh ionadh orm…
Braitheann sé ar an cursai airgead.
Sounds like Foley just decided to change it to a Gaelscoil and didn’t bother her hole asking. Forgiveness not permission
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I’ve a mate who works under Foley in her new brief. Initial impressions are very poor Some of the stuff was actually in episodes of The Thick Of It!
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Jesus you’re windmilling a bit there. The lack of diversity (again) on show there with the middle class parents looking to divert their kids away from diversity, yet all you can give back is the above.
I note again this is not an anti Irish language position, it is telling how many “champions” of the language get affronted though when criticism of how they operate is brought to the fore.
You make little to no sense.
People who dont embrace irish are diverting from diversity by your logic 
She knows how to win votes.
This all comes back to all parties looking to win votes in that area. That “announcement” will have been a favour by Norma to Jim O’Callaghan I suspect.
One thing to note is how few residents in areas like Dublin Bay South and other city centre constituencies vote. It is the lowest in the country - this being due to the diversity there (our electoral rules) and the number of renters.
It is distressing to see how such pro division policies can be such election fodder. Deeply cynical and employed by all politicians it seems.
Synge Street CBS is a diverse school, reflecting the diverse nature of the residents in the area.
Gaelscoil are significantly less diverse than other schools, with this reflected in the stats around it.
They have been a proven vehicle for middle class parents to divert their children away from the regular sector (and some of the associated issues with diversity).
Years ago Synge Street was renowned academically, attracting pupils from the locality and further afield. Much like O’Connell CBS.
30-40 years ago this changed as middle class parents looked to both fee paying schools and more recently Gaelscoils.
The schools have in that time become far more diverse. And a DEIS school.
This amounts to a takeover of a school that is serving the broad demographics of the area now, asset stripping of the bits they want (building in an area where new development is a challenge, alumni list).
They are taking away the unfashionable bits (the CBS, same sex education) and adding in some more fashionable bits (co-Ed, Irish language) & moreover, removing the “operational” issues that a school like that has faced. This would inevitably lead to children who would have gone there being forced elsewhere, whilst the “Irish” parents of the area start putting their kids back in school in the area.
The election element to this is deeply concerning. All parties at it from what I can see.
You’re anti something in the name of diversity. Yet that actually makes you anti diversity…
Here’s the Irish language trying to embrace a diverse school and your message is - stay in your lane.
Very, very narrow thinking.
Same sex schools by @Tim_Riggins logic are anti diversity, as 50% of the population are automatically excluded.
Fee paying schools also spared his ire
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It’s serious windmilling alright
The Irish language cannot serve that school as required, hence why the teachers and unions reacted like they did.
The lobby have acted as gatekeepers for large portions of the teaching profession for years and have failed.
The answer to more Irish language in the school is it becoming universal.
Universal is a problem though as it means they open the floodgates to others being able to get the cushy jobs. They’ll allow a slow stream of middle class Dublin parents into the club as so many of them have ended up there themselves.
Our system is naturally set up with blockers. That’s a reality of history:
I am not denying that. That schools move in ethos and model is not a problem for me - already the teachers have said 90% want to move to co-Ed. We are gradually and organically moving things on.
Gaelscoils are not reflective of diversity though. They are simply a more modern way to put walls up that is acceptable.
Everyone knows this, the code language around these schools amongst parents is not long waited for.
This amounted to a complete takeover attempt- not reflective of what the stakeholders wanted & it was being facilitated for cynical electoral reason.
thats the least diverse crowd Ive seen in Ireland since the last time i watched a gga match
They were in Synge Street measuring the drapes and wondering where they would hang the Hector portrait pre Christmas until the reality of the post election world hit.
Are you saying that parents should be forced to send kids to schools with a lot of diversity in them? That’s coercion in anyone’s book.
If parents want their kids to go to a school that has values they hold, there’s nothing wrong with that as long as these values are not extreme.
You went to a fee paying scholl ffs… presumably because your parents held certain values they wanted you to embrace.
Forcing diversity is a cod.
And by the by… painting all parents the same is gas. Some kids are sent because a school is convenient. Other’s because there’s a genuine love for the Irish language… the champion of corporate capitalism (that devours many people’s lives) is out bashing the middle class 
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Where did I say that?
I said put simply that Gaelscoils are not diverse and that we shouldn’t be promoting them further.
Interestingly I would guess there is a decent overlap between those outraged over baptismal requirements historically and those who want a Gaelscoil.
If we want to promote the Irish language further, we should move towards universal teaching through it. This would reflect the educational standards required of primary school teachers in particular. That is not pushed for though by the lobby, for reasons that are obvious when you look under the hood.
Lean ort a mhac. I’m all ears.
There are no cultural blockers to enter a gaelscoil. Anyone can apply. Anti gaeilgeori such as yourself have been spreading fear and disinformation for years … well no more.
I agree the teaching of it needs a complete overhaul in mainstream schools … but there’s no big bad conspiracy threory here. More a snobbish attitude is some corners that speak the language
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Newly qualified teachers are made hop to one school or another without any chance of permanently getting a full time gig
It’s no wonder so many leg it to pastures new,
The time out melarky used by some in permanent positions stops the younger new to the game of achieving permanent status,
Some teachers in my younger fellas primary school back in the day were out for years ref having several kids,
This not only upset the rhythm of class work but harmed the kids education I think,
Twas all different part timers filled the roles for his class ,
That’s my twopence worth
Civil servants can really play the game,
I’ve a middle ranking HSE employee friend who works in the mental health sector in the CUH and the stuff he told me about the senior management carry on in his department is beyond a joke,
Some don’t turn in every day,
Others cover for each other and pass on any difficult work to their colleagues ( underlings)
Bullying going on wholesale
And most ppl in there plus teachers etc are unsackable
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