Who wasn't bugging GSOC

[flattythehurdler]

A genuine error vaguely maybe, but it’s a very very big coincidence.
If it was done in error, it was an error of such vast consequence, and such utter lack of diligence and respect, that it must constitute gross negligence.
Is it not gross negligence?

[mikehunt]

@flattythehurdler

A genuine error vaguely maybe, but it’s a very very big coincidence.
If it was done in error, it was an error of such vast consequence, and such utter lack of diligence and repeat, that it must constitute gross negligence.
Is it not gross negligence?

Now I could be wrong on this but is it not the case that only actual frontline medical staff (doctors and nurses) can be held responsible for their actions/decisions in the HSE. It is practically impossible to sack anyone in the HSE unless you are a doctor or nurse. Pretty much the same across the Irish public sector really.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

@Fagan_ODowd

@gilgamboa

@Fagan_ODowd

Wouldn’t fancy that. I’d imagine he will skewer her

Defence barrister will be on his feet “you cannot badger a woman in this condition like that”

I’d be turning on the waterworks early

There will be no defence barrister. It’s a tribunal.

That’s a clamping

[artfoley]

I’ve a number of concerns about what’s being proffered here

1. I’m not convinced that there is an obligation to re-report an allegation of sexual abuse especially In circumstances where the DPP has determined no charges.
2. Why didn’t the shrink take up a copy of the original file with a form of authority signed by ms d to compare what she was being told now for consistency.
3. Why did the CFA not compare the new allegations with the old file and seek clarifications on the inconsistencies/new allegations.

On application of the duck test it walks, quacks and swims like a stitch up.

[Raylan]

The other HSE employee giving evidence yesterday was asked about her personal relationship with Gardai, did she have any relations etc in the guards. Not sure whether the shrink was asked the same question.

[artfoley]

@Raylan

The other HSE employee giving evidence yesterday was asked about her personal relationship with Gardai, did she have any relations etc in the guards. Not sure whether the shrink was asked the same question

There’d normally be a close enough relationship between social workers and gardai due to the overlap when reporting abuse and when the gardai invoke s12. But for any of them to say they were unaware of McCabe is ridiculous.

[gilgamboa]

@flattythehurdler

A genuine error vaguely maybe, but it’s a very very big coincidence.
If it was done in error, it was an error of such vast consequence, and such utter lack of diligence and repeat, that it must constitute gross negligence.
Is it not gross negligence?

I think it would be nigh on impossible to fire someone from HSE if you deemed it to be a genuine error. Doctors face charges all the time where patients face poor outcomes because of genuine errors and they don’t get fired

[artfoley]

@gilgamboa

I think it would be nigh on impossible to fire someone from HSE if you deemed it to be a genuine error. Doctors face charges all the time where patients face poor outcomes because of genuine errors and they don’t get fired

Of course the way to remove these “errors” is to make them, in part, personally liable for the costs and damages the state pays.

[TreatyStones]

@artfoley

I’m not convinced that there is an obligation to re-report an allegation of sexual abuse especially In circumstances where the DPP has determined no charges.

But did she not look for a file and could find none, that’s why it was reported again?

[Horsebox]

There’s a few lads posting here that I would like to have a chat with concerning some beans I am selling. PM me for details.

Bring cash.

[flattythehurdler]

This is true. Difference between an error and gross negligence is a vague one.

[Raylan]

@artfoley

But for any of them to say they were unaware of McCabe is ridiculous.

That wasn’t said. I think it was the HSE lady that said he was the go-to in Bailieboro for child protection issues, so his file re the historical complaint was sent to the Meath office for handling iirc

[gilgamboa]

Our lovely psychologist on the news again now in a minute. Glowing so she is

[Nembo_Kid]

@gilgamboa

She is a classy looking lady I’d be surprised if she is up to no good

Ah here

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

We can see how he approved all those dud loans with that attitude.

[artfoley]

@Raylan

That wasn’t said. I think it was the HSE lady that said he was the go-to in Bailieboro for child protection issues, so his file re the historical complaint was sent to the Meath office for handling iirc

I’m fairly sure I saw that one of the witnesses said they weren’t aware of McCabe as a whistleblower. Said they never read the papers.

[Fagan_ODowd]

@artfoley

@Raylan

That wasn’t said. I think it was the HSE lady that said he was the go-to in Bailieboro for child protection issues, so his file re the historical complaint was sent to the Meath office for handling iirc

I’m fairly sure I saw that one of the witnesses said they weren’t aware of McCabe as a whistleblower. Said they never read the papers.

That was the pregnant psychologist that @gilgamboa has the horn for.

[Nembo_Kid]

No wonder. She looks like that male model who the seagull crashed into on the rollercoaster

[artfoley]

@Fagan_ODowd

That was the pregnant psychologist that @gilgamboa has the horn for

Aha.

Bit weird having a preggo fetish. It’s one thing stirring a lads porridge, quite another to dent the head of his unborn child

[gilgamboa]

@artfoley

I’m fairly sure I saw that one of the witnesses said they weren’t aware of McCabe as a whistleblower. Said they never read the papers.

She said she wasn’t aware he was a whistle blower in mid 2013 when she prepared the report. Was the story completely out in the open 4 years ago?