Why do teachers get pay rises

…and other awkward questions we hasten to ask at dinner parties.

S’pose the title’s a fair starting point. I’m sure there must be a reason, I’d just like it explained to me; a humble-minded individual who’s very apparently ignorant as to how “career progression” works in this very important profession.

Do they have more responsibility? ie larger classes?
Do they perform better? ie better average results in their classes?

Meas.

Inflation

Grade inflation?

Sure, why not

Because they can. It works like this. Every week the teachers pick a different class and make them bring in a tenner/fiver for a new ‘project’. On Fridays there is a draw and the winning teacher takes all.

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The Capitalist way. :clap: :clap:

Because it’s unionised and it suits the government to have standard rates across the board so the best teachers won’t flee from poorer areas to richer ones.

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Inflation.

Its funny how teachers are perceived back home in comparison to Asia. It’s actually a crazy hard job over here.

www.politics.ie is the place you really need to be for public service bashing. I’d love to know how many have walked a mile in their moccasins before opening fire!

What is the average wage now for primary and secondary school teachers out of interest?

Are you of the opinion that it’s a really easy job over here?

In comparison to over here, yes. I’m thinking secondary/high school.

What makes it so much more difficult out of interest?

And did you ever teach secondary school in Ireland?

70-80 hour working weeks for a start. The girl I know that teaches regularly works from 7/8 to midnight correcting papers, and on top of working an almost full day Saturday preparing lessons and marking. Countries like Singapore, Japan and South Korea typically top longest working hours for teachers.

Ah, ok. Fair enough.
But I heard that a lot of the time the raise is more than inflation. Is there a reason for this?

Ok, so then a decent wage is justified. But an increasing wage? Or do these long hours get longer on a sliding scale in line with their payrises?

Understood. But why do these pay rates increase the more years there in the job? (Other than inflation)

Yes

I’d say that teaching lark is one of the hardest jobs going.
Imagine facing into a class every morning of 30+ kids and keep them entertained and under control for 5 hours, add the curriculum demands and the utter cunts of parents around the place now. Fuck that.
Your every move watched and accounted for and that’s only primary.
The thought of dealing with teenagers in the above scenario is terrifying too.
I’m training a few underage teams for the last 5 years. NO ciriculum to adhere to,bar try not to get them injured or killed and I’m in an all weather pitch or grass field, I’d shudder at the thought of having them in a classroom for more than 15mins. I get shite from the odd parent for not playing their little useless bollix of a son even though he can’t walk 30 ft without falling over, I’d say most parents are a nightmare for teachers.
I find it draining to keep them going for 90mins 2 nights a week.
Teachers definately don’t have it easy.

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