Agreed.
Although that seems to be a response to the question of “why do teachers get paid?”, which is not one that I put forward.
My question is why do they get payrises?
Every year, in most cases greater than the rate of inflation.
Everyone seems to be dancing around the main issue here, pal, so I’ll handle this one.
They are parasites, protected parasites and that is why they get paid above the going rate for the job they do.
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Are you sure that every teacher gets a pay rise more than inflation? Above you said you only heard that. But sure it’s probably easier to complain about something when you only have a small portion of fact. It sounds better when ranting about it to others.
I haven’t paid too much attention to teacher payrises tbh.
Fair play to them though if their union is powerful enough to obtain a payrise.
What a lot if people don’t understand when they moan about public sector pay rises is that it eventually trickles down to all of the working population, and I don’t mean in ‘spend’ and money in circulation.
If for instance a maintenance grade in the public sector gets a 7% payrise, that automatically raises the pay rate for all maintenace grades be it public or private.
Private maintenance grades might not get the full 7% or get it immediately but they have a strong claim for it.
God bless the public sector.
Saving everyone since 1922.
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Try being teacher in a special school in inner city Dublin and see how you get on. New teachers get sfa compared to older cohorts and hardly any secondary teachers get full hours contracts now due to casualisation of every profession. Lad I know is trying to rent a room in Dublin on 16k a year before tax
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Nembo attended a special school for years. He’d have a fair insight into one alright.
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Of course there might be extreme cases but working about 30 hours a week with between 3 and 4 months paid holiday a year with complete job security every day is living on easy street.
Teachers remind me of the unionists up north, detached from reality and unwilling to have reform taken on their elevated status. Half of them would run a mile from having to take a job that required real graft and meeting various deadlines and/or targets on a weekly/monthly basis. People who generally go into teaching are scared stiff of work.
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A very ill informed post. Some Kev levels of sweeping generalisations
I’m just voicing my opinion based on my personal experiences of encountering teachers down here, pal.
You’re fully entitled to your opinion mate. I just happen to think it’s utter bollocks. However I know whatever proof is presented will not force you to change your mind so I’ll not be delving any deeper into this conversation with you.
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I know teachers up North have it nowhere near as soft as they have it down here and don’t get paid anywhere near what they do here as well. When I first moved down to Dublin I stayed with a teacher who was coasting it on easy street.
The Oirish love rewarding people for doing dick all.
I take it you have children in school and an axe to grind.
Argento and Scarto have not been born yet.
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Ive read both arguments here and nembo has been the most persuasive. Teachers are lazy dullards and it isnt a real job
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I’d agree that teaching is a tough job - particularly so in some circumstances. My couple of issues would be:
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Why does every teacher get paid/raises at the same rate? There are some extraordinary teachers who go the extra mile, inspire their students etc. Everyone at a school knows who these are, the principal, the parents, the pupils. I have no problem with excellence being rewarded with extra pay, bonuses etc. By paying everyone the same it practically encourages mediocrity
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There is an extraordinary victim/L’oreal complex around some teachers i.e. they think that they are being screwed over the whole time, refuse to acknowledge the working hours benefits of an otherwise tough job etc. I can only imagine this comes from sitting in the echo chamber of a staffroom with like-minded peers and the confirmation bias that results. The behaviour of some of the teaching unions over the last couple of years has been scandalous at times. Particularly in the context of them being happy to pull the ladder up behind existing staff at the the cost to new entrants.
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Teaching is a tough gig but not half as tough in Ireland as it is in most countries. UK teachers are worked twice as hard as Irish teachers and get less afaik? … like my good pal @tallback has hinted, teachers should be on some sort of performance related pay rise. I’ve a load of friends that teach and a few go above and beyond while the majority just drift through.
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Why just teachers? Why do bus drivers and nurses get payrises?
FFS… you’ll be questioning the postman next. You dumb Polak cunt.
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Bus drivers and nurses don’t get 3/4 months paid leave.
Either do teachers.