Why do teachers get pay rises

Yes I think so.

I would consider so, yes.

Why?

Just the impression I get from talking to friends, family, peers, listening to radio discussion etc.

But your social circle probably consists of all sorts of kumbaya millennials who have an awful sense of entitlement about them.

Yes there is…most parents realise the difficult but excellent job these young teachers do and are happy to see them paid a decent wage to keep them motivated and providing a good service. In many cases these new entrants have replaced teachers with 35 years service who were hopeless

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I’d say we would all hate to see the circle of geeks and freaks that are willing to hang around you

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That’s a fair point. But seeing as they are the main funders it’s equivalent to asking them to pay more for their services without any corresponding improvement in service. If I’m to pay more tax (or less tax back or reduced investment in other public service areas etc etc), all things being equal I’d be more inclined to employ more guards or teachers rather than just give the existing ones more cash.

Anyway, the main point I was trying to make is that this isn’t Monopoly money which can be whistled out of nowhere. Someone somewhere has to pay for it …

At least none of my friends have put their balls in my mouth, the same cannot be said for you.

This is what Juhy and his champagne socialist mates just don’t get, fella.

@gilgamboa put his balls in your mouth? :fearful:

I don’t even know the guy but that’s the type of behaviour rugby louts engage in.

Feel free to bump the weird thread log you made referencing friends of mine or people I know for reference, mate.

You let him put his balls in your mouth when you didn’t even know him?

You’re jumping to conclusions.

The thought of it seems to have made you quite giddy.

Sorry mate can you keep your sick daydreams off here

In the local parlance…that never happened

Oh sure your from Tyrone you must have been in a gay porno about a dog fighter

I just think it would reframe the debate. Instead of “We should get pay restoration because we deserve it” it would become “We should get pay restoration instead of pension increases/USC reductions/Social welfare Xmas Bonus/additional Public Sector Recruitment”

Obviously, when choices are presented like that, the public might be a little less passive about it either way.

Can we discuss why teachers shouldn’t have their salary, working hours and annual leave in line with other public sector workers such as nurses, gardai etc.

Exactly. While the likes of Juhy would have you believe that the budget for public expenditure is infinite and can be expanded by government policy (wtf?!?!) the reality is that allocating more to one line of expenditure means allocating less to another. So am I happy to pay more USC or taxes so that teachers, with all of the perks they have as discussed earlier, can get paid more? No I am not.

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