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A major part of the the 2040 plan, which already gives rooral Ireland far too much, is to make proper cities out of Cork, Limerick and Galway.
Rooral Ireland doesn’t want that.
They want to be able to live miles from everyone and enjoy the same services.
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Im making a very simple point. Tim wants to plough on investing money in all kinds of infrastructure to grow Dublin further. But there isnt accomodation for all that want and need it as it stands. So house what ye have and then talk about the next phase.
All your other points are completely superflous from any point I am making
Happy to pay for all these services mate.
There is no question that Dublin City Council have a vendetta against road users in Dublin and have decided that traffic is fantastic, everyone should cycle.
NIMBYs with high rise are always a problem.
But the key issue is the lack of vision. The lack of a counter voice.
Dublin politicians are scared shitless of the Anti Dublin crew in the Dáil who hold the balance of power. The politicians in the Dublin sprawl area the same.
There has been one infrastructure project with vision created in my lifetime for Dublin, the Dublin Port Tunnel. In the meantime the country managed to build roads all over Ireland, many of which were a complete waste of time.
This isn’t something that even started in my lifetime. It’s been there since the days of DeValera. Shannon Airport being protected for years so Dublin couldn’t get transatlantic flights.
Dublin needs a distinct voice for itself. It needs a directly elected mayor as rooral TDs continue to hold back Ireland from its potential.
Mate, you just agreed that Malahide is in Dublin and not Fingal. You might want to reconsider there.
What about the Luas, the M50, Terminal 2?
Terminal 2 is in Fingal mate
Great article.
+1 pal.
Living on the acre of land by the coast. No decent bus service or major roads. Towns about twenty minutes or more away. Have fibre broadband tho. Work from home. No commute. A lot more to life than a rat race in a city. If it means other things aren’t available or have to pay more, so be it. I won’t be complaining.
You’re just rambling now and making no sense mate. The lack of infrastructure in Dublin and the shoddy built buildings is nothing to do with rural Ireland.
Dublin is too small to handle its own population. It will implode in the next decade and everything between the 2 canals will just grind to a stop. Look at Grand Canal area as an example. Lots of industry but noone can afford to live there. The darts servicing the area can’t handle peak time crowds. The road network can’t handle buses so there’s no primary bus route near the area. Itd be a better idea to just bomb the place to the ground and rebuild it with a bit of intelligence behind it.
And Athlone and Sligo as well apparently now.
Once the official D.R.A.F.T is released you will of course have pretty much the entire country up in arms going “What about me?”
Dublin needs to build up. Who are we preserving the skyline for.
A canary wharf type development on the site of the old bottle factory would change the game and bring the prospect of two Dublin teams contesting the All Ireland final that bit closer
When will ye sort out a few houses tim? Maybe focus on a few smaller infrastructure projects before ye snaffle all the available cash for the big one you covet
Why should rural dwellers pay for da luas and the noitelink when they have no public transport service. Agrarian heroes pay for water schemes, waste collection etc but the thought of that was enough to get the howyas to take a few minutes a day away from the scratcher to scream peaceful protest.
But its a fair point, each area should raise its own taxes and spend as it sees fit. With the proviso that country folk forced by decades of centralization to live in dublin allowed to allocate their taxes to their own county if the desire.
By god they will pay dear for the water from the Shannon when they come looking for it 
Waterford is milking it for everything pal…they were down but getting investment now…mullane has the Arabs coming to do the quays…advance buildings gone in… another going in…
Terminal 2 is an airport terminal, big whoop. Like with the next runway, the DAA can afford to build it themselves. It is a fine project, but there we are.
The M50 took decades to build, was not fit for purpose the day it was completed and is not fit for purpose right now. A ring road is not something you hang your hat on as a city.
The LUAS, now this has to be the biggest joke. The Green Line is simply going over the old Harcourt Street line. It is now clearly at capacity and is getting slower. The Red Line is also slow and at capacity. LUAS Cross City is a mess. These projects were all basically scaled down versions of what should have happened, proper heavy rail metro services.
The Port Tunnel was actually a game changing improvement for the City and is looked across Europe with admiration. It’s something like the longest tunnel in Europe. Visionary projects are ones that will be looked back on in 100 plus years. Dublin mostly completes projects which are sub optimal or just out of date.
Recently I had visitors over from oz who were very impressed when we drove through the tunnel