Wrongs perpetrated by the British Army (the original title was buggering me)

You’re right, the IRA should have written a letter to Harold Wilson.

You are equating the IRA and loyalist paramilitaries, no Irish Republican would do that. A pretend one would though, or a stickie, or an Irish Trot.

There were a hell lot of Protestant civilians murdered by the PIRA. Perhaps the claim that the PIRA were not sectarian is based on them butchering a large number of their own people? Such as, say, 15 year old Bernard Teggart, the son of Daniel Teggart, murdered at Ballymurphy?

But in that case their claim to be the protector of the Catholic people sort of falls away, doesn’t it?

I can assure you that that statement is not correct. Between the pair of you … @Tierneevin1979 and @Cheasty … how many years between 1969 and 1994 did you live in the North?

I’d guess not 5 between you.

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Well you claim the Palestinian people should just stand idly by and say kumbayas to Israel. You do this with a straight face, while justifying Kingsmills.

Real Irish Republicans know exactly what the Provos were, opportunist vultures who dragged NI into a hellhole.

There’s a thread on Israel.

Ah! like Eoghan Harris :rofl:

I was an intermittent visitor, I never lived there.
Convince me why the IRA were sectarian. Start with their goals. Was their goal a Catholic Ireland?

@Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy is the Eoghan Harris devotee on this forum. You’d want to take it up with him.

Fianna Fail.

If you commit sectarian murder like Kingsmills, you’re sectarian. Same as the INLA did when they butchered worshippers at Darkley.

Brian Keenan was treated like a God in extreme nationalist circles and still is.

Tullyvallen was sectarian as fook. So was Enniskillen. So was La Mon. The Provos were more than happy when Protestant civilians fled South Armagh.

The INLA were committed socialists like yourself.

I would argue they were nationalist socialist. Which is a good deal closer to you.

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Which IRA? And and what time?

Truth is that the IRA tried to be all thing to all men. While espousing a leftist (not too say Marxist) agenda in Ireland they raised funds from right wing catholic nationalists in USA.

Urban republican Ireland - Belfast/Dublin was leftist Rural republican Ireland was catholic nationalist mainly.

What united “fenians” was british and loyalist injustice and oppression.

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I’m neither a nationalist nor a socialist. I’m an Irish Republican, a US Democrat, and pro capitalist. Like the great majority of Irish Americans.

Nationalist socialists aren’t very socialist but they are very nationalist. Ah yeah, a US “Democrat” who has a long running vendetta against any remotely progressive change in the US and treats the white supremacist nutcase Ron DeSantis as a hero and has been shilling for Trump for years. Sort of a George Wallace Democrat.

I’ll tell you now. Neither of you have a fucking clue about Ireland particularly the North.

I’ll ask you again. How much time time have you spent living in the North?

I would say very few in the IRA were political at all, but that’s just my opinion. Obviously some were, and I agree with your characterization somewhat of urban vs rural. Irish Americans are almost all Democrats and centrists, which I agree is seen as right wing in leftist circles in Ireland.

Sure I just told you, I was an intermittent visitor.

Are you arguing now that the INLA were not socialists?

I’d say Dr. Death was a stickler for quoting Das Kapital.

About as much time as Mary Lou McDonald.