Wrongs perpetrated by the British Army (the original title was buggering me)

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Cheasty

Nelson Mandela didn’t wage a witless, headless 26 year campaign of atrocities against civilians which had zero chance of success right from the start.

You did though.

You supported the Provisional campaign and justified it.

The history didn’t change but your version of it has.

That’s what is interesting here.

Nelson Mandela was part of a movement which didn’t wage a campaign that caused atrocities of civilians? No bombings? No innocent lives cost?

As far as I can tell nationalists in the north can now drive on their roads without UDR checkpoints of walk down a street without an army soldier pointing a gun in their face and pushing them up against a wall.

Catholics can now prosper for equal employment and educational opportunities without being dismissed by what school they went or what their named sounded like.

They can travel down south to a GAA game without being taken out of a car and murdered when returning.

They can congegrate on streets without being picked off by a state employed sniper.

Of course all you have done is serve to display your ignorance and lack of understanding of what life was like for northern nationalists.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Cheasty

Also, you’re a Russian imperialist. Are there many Russian imperialists in Sinn Fein?

Russia have been on the right side of things more often that now. Aren’t you a big Democrat supporter in America - Vietnam, Iraq, Cuba. Look at all the blood on the hands of your ideology.

[Cheasty]

@Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy

As far as I can tell nationalists in the north can now drive on their roads without UDR checkpoints of walk down a street without an army soldier pointing a gun in their face and pushing them up against a wall.

Catholics can now prosper for equal employment and educational opportunities without being dismissed by what school they went or what their named sounded like.

They can travel down south to a GAA game without being taken out of a car and murdered when returning.

They can congegrate on streets without being picked off by a state employed sniper.

Of course all you have done is serve to display your ignorance and lack of understanding of what life was like for northern nationalists.

Aye, and none of that thanks to the Provos, who merely perpetuated the situation where all that was the case for decades.

Well done Provos.

With people like that claiming to be their “friends”, Catholics in the north scarcely needed enemies.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Cheasty

Aye, and none of that thanks to the Provos, who merely perpetuated the situation where all that was the case for decades.

Well done Provos.

With people like that claiming to be their “friends”, Catholics in the north scarcely needed enemies.

You’ve gone down the Regina Doherty route now

https://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/25751

Your shift to the far right continues unabated.

[Cheasty]

@Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy

Russia have been on the right side of things more often that now. Aren’t you a big Democrat supporter in America - Vietnam, Iraq, Cuba. Look at all the blood on the hands of your ideology.

You literally support the annexation of other countries by colonial powers. That’s what the British Empire did. That’s literally what the Nazis did. And you support it on the exact same grounds the Nazis did it. The exact same grounds the Sudetenland was invaded.

That’s a fact.

Can you answer the question? Are there many Russian colonialists like you in Sinn Fein?

What’s Sinn Fein’s stance on the matter?

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Cheasty

Aye, and none of that thanks to the Provos, who merely perpetuated the situation where all that was the case for decades.

@Sidney

There is no moral equivalence between fighting against a colonial oppressor and fighting to uphold colonial oppression

Interesting.

[Tank]

I dont understand why on a thread called “Wrongs perpetrated by the British Army” there are always posters posting at length about “provos this” and “provis that”. There seems to me something very off about that.

[Cheasty]

You’re desperately looking for an escape hatch again, Angelo.

Can’t you debate?

Why not?

Would it be anything to do with you having the mental age of a 6 year old, displaying it literally every time you post, because the entirety of your sad little existence as a human is a performative internet persona?

That’s a rhetorical question.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Cheasty

You’re desperately looking for an escape hatch again, mate.

Can’t you debate?

Why not?

You’re the one who has ignored the central point.

You have been duplicitous.

You supported the armed campaign. You went to great lengths to justify the armed campaign.

Now your tune has changed. The history hasn’t though.

So the question is why have you tried to rewrite your own history? Why are you being duplicitous about your own past? Your own former views? Your own former account of history. Because none of these facts have changed.

Now maybe finally you can muster some character or some courage and address that rather than duck it?

[Cheasty]

@Tank

I dont understand why on a thread called “Wrongs perpetrated by the British Army” there are always posters posting at length about “provos this” and “provis that”. There seems to me something very off about that.

Or you’re just confronted and hurt because you live in an echo chamber, and are unable to debate these opinions.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Tank

I dont understand why on a thread called “Wrongs perpetrated by the British Army” there are always posters posting at length about “provos this” and “provis that”. There seems to me something very off about that.

Former Provo supporter Sid has got a severe case of amnesia.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Cheasty

Or you’re just confronted and hurt because you live in an echo chamber, and are unable to debate these opinions.

You can’t debate your own past views. You won’t entertain it.

[Cheasty]

Again, a badly written rewrite of posts which have badly rewritten about a thousand times. No insight. No debate.

Just raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrr.

Like a six year old.

That’s your level.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Cheasty

No insight. No debate.

@Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy

Now maybe finally you can muster some character or some courage and address that rather than duck it?

And you want to pretend you should not be challenged on your views.

You’re a hypocrite and how dare anyone challenge on your hollow, insincere virtue signaling.

Don’t worry, maybe because you have lost the debate on here you can try and personalise it in more sinister ways as is your form.

[Tank]

Debate what opinion, the provos were bad? Who said they weren’t and what does it have to do with the thread title? You aren’t even debating a point, you’re just saying over and over that you don’t support the provos.

The initial point was that after Ballymoney and Bloody Sunday some people joined the provos believing themselves to be fighting back against the British. As I’ve stated above your opinion in 2021 of the provos and their actions has on effect on whether or not this was their belief.

What is there to debate? You just said you’re not debating. You’re just fighting with yourself.

[Cheasty]

@Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy

Former Provo supporter Sid has got a severe case of amnesia.

That’s your problem right there. You’re devastated that somebody grew up and changed their opinions, because you know you never can. Because your brain does not have a think function.

All you have is the mindset of a mafia man.

Cue desperate escape hatch after escape hatch, because you can’t debate.

Extreme nationalism is a cult. Snake oil, peddled by deranged shamans like you.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

You didn’t change your views.

You revised history.

That’s the difference between honest and sincere viewpoints and someone who manipulates the facts and twists them to suit the agenda. You are duplicitous and you won’t address that. I can accept viewpoints changing but rewriting history is not a case of changing your viewpoint. It’s a case of someone who stands for nothing.

You are a deranged loon like Eoghan Harris.

[Cheasty]

@Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy

You didn’t change your views.

You revised history.

That’s the difference between honest and sincere viewpoints and someone who manipulates the facts and twists them to suit the agenda. You are duplicitous and you won’t address that. I can accept viewpoints changing but rewriting history is not a case of changing your viewpoint. It’s a case of someone who stands for nothing.

Not an argument. Not debate. Nothing more than abuse because somebody doesn’t have the same opinions as you and that deeply hurts you and angers you on a very visceral level.

And that’s what you do on every thread, every topic, on multiple forums.

You simply don’t know how to deal with the real world.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

A bit like your Eoghan Harris.

Your past, your hypocrisy, your double standard and your duplicity is never to be discussed or addressed.

You have manipulated the same history to publish two different versions that support your two different ideologies at two different points in time. You’ve been asked to address that, you can’t.

You views are hollow and insincere and have zero credibility.

[Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy]

@Cheasty

You simply don’t know how to deal with the real world.

Incredible.

Maybe I’ll run off to Twitter to mimic a few posters on here. That’s how to deal with things in the real world. Become obsessive with a few characters on the internet who you disagree with and try and damage them.