Cheasty
January 13, 2022, 10:01am
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This was a very good post.
Cheasty:
I expect this massive wave will pass or seriously decline within two or three weeks. My guess is that hospitalisations will hit around a thousand and start to tail off after that. Thereâs going to be massive disruption in that time however.
Everything now hinges on the data as regards how Omicron affects the old and immunocompromised, and how it affects people in different vaccination categories, the boosted, the double vaccinated, the unvaccinated.
There will need to be a big effort to collate this data internationally. Eastern Europe where there remains a large amount of people unvaccinated will I think be fairly informative.
What are the different risk categories, how do the old and unvaccinated cope with Omicron, how do the old and vaccinated cope with it, how do the young and unvaccinated cope with it.
This will be a pointer to March/April when boosters have worn off here.
If Omicron remains a serious threat to the old and immunocompromised but doesnât massively affect the rest of us, thatâs still a big problem. You canât just have people going into hospitals knowing thereâs a good chance they could be made more ill or die from picking up Covid in there. If we accept this we would be accepting we effectively have to live without a health service. I donât think you can accept that.
If vaccines provide sod all protection against infection, thatâs five million people in this state that are susceptible to infection. Thatâs a lot of people. The massive wave will likely decline but it may well be that a lower but still significant spread is ever present, in a similarish manner to how Delta didnât fall away to nothing after the July/August wave in the UK subsided a bit.
If it becomes clear that Omicron is not taking much of a toll on the vulnerable and immunocompromised, Iâd expect to see restrictions fade away to effectively nothing within a couple of months. People would probably still be asked to isolate for 5-7 days but it would probably be advisory.
Thatâs an if though.
And thereâs always the chance of a backtrack and people will have to understand that possibility will be there for the foreseeable future. The virus could evolve again, and thereâs no guarantee at all we wonât have a problem again next winter and in future winters.
https://twitter.com/andrewflood/status/1481562713348349954
The vaccinated have saved the country, huzzah
@Tim_Riggins - whatâs our friend tweeting today? Sheâll be like the lads at the Alamo , sheâll fight to the last e-bullet.
Tubridy effectively called the end of the pandemic this morning.
Doesnât want to be shoving antigen tests up his nostrils.
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Dr Tony wont be liking that. This pandemic is not over until Dr Tony says so.
Omnicod to save us from the Omnishambles
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This explains why Carryharry hasnât been attacked by Covid so far.
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Moral dilemma: kids 5+ now told to take a rip?
Iâm not for sharing anyway
Omicron has saved the world
I see Trump is taking cuts at lads for not revealing if they took their Booster now.
Copper_pipe:
HSE are updating the website (by the end of next week) to allow a positive antigen test result to be recorded. Assume this data will be added to the daily PCR case numbers at some pointâŚ
Theyâll have to supply the antigens with QR codes on them otherwise you could have multiple people uploading the same antigen test in order to get the recovery certâŚ
System goes live tomorrow.
The health minister acknowledged today that as a person does not have to prove or show their antigen test, but merely log their antigen test result onto the system, that it is open to people to putting up false results.
Those in government believe there is an element with the new system that they must âtake people at their wordâ.
âI think like most things in this pandemic, we are relying on people doing the right thing,â he said, adding that over the last two years people have followed the public health advice and have âcontinually done the right thing,â Donnelly told reporters today.
âIs it open to, you know, to a bit of play acting? It is,â he said, before adding that he is confident that it will be used responsibly.
Given that antigen tests as well as PCR tests will now be counted in the daily notification figures, it is expected that there could be a surge in cases reported.
It is understood that those in government are keen the HSE differentiates between the antigen test and PCR test numbers when they are issuing the daily figures.
Copper_pipe:
Copper_pipe:
HSE are updating the website (by the end of next week) to allow a positive antigen test result to be recorded. Assume this data will be added to the daily PCR case numbers at some pointâŚ
Theyâll have to supply the antigens with QR codes on them otherwise you could have multiple people uploading the same antigen test in order to get the recovery certâŚ
System goes live tomorrow.
The health minister acknowledged today that as a person does not have to prove or show their antigen test, but merely log their antigen test result onto the system, that it is open to people to putting up false results.
Those in government believe there is an element with the new system that they must âtake people at their wordâ.
âI think like most things in this pandemic, we are relying on people doing the right thing,â he said, adding that over the last two years people have followed the public health advice and have âcontinually done the right thing,â Donnelly told reporters today.
âIs it open to, you know, to a bit of play acting? It is,â he said, before adding that he is confident that it will be used responsibly.
Given that antigen tests as well as PCR tests will now be counted in the daily notification figures, it is expected that there could be a surge in cases reported.
It is understood that those in government are keen the HSE differentiates between the antigen test and PCR test numbers when they are issuing the daily figures.
Sounds like an open invitation to all those clowns buttering their antigen tests to fuck up the data.
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Arthur
January 13, 2022, 2:53pm
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Surely any anti vaxxer worth his salt is gonna stick it to the man by logging an antigen test to get his recovery cert for travel. They surely thought of that though which is another reason to think they are saying open it up to flip, actually it is a cod but not in so many words.
Sounds like this is the final nail in the use of vaccine certs. They are rendered even more useless now.
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The certs are about as useful as the vaccine
Thatâs it, an Irish solution to an Irish problem. Everyone gets a recovery cert
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Bisto
January 13, 2022, 3:22pm
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Positions have moved a lot over last few days , I wonder will it have a knock on effect on the people not getting their kids vaccinated âŚ
I see absolutely no point in getting kids vaccinated at this stage.
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