1916 rising celebration

A deeply Catholic rising :joy:

:joy:

At least Redmond was actually alive in 1916.

Grattan the fancy cunt putting Garlic in his potatoes and the peasants starving. :rage:

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https://twitter.com/Mc_Cabe_Conor/status/709130623768764421

https://twitter.com/Mc_Cabe_Conor/status/709127697809674240

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I think what Tim Riggins is trying to say is that no specific historical event* should ever be commemorated.

*Apart from pro-imperial ones he likes, which should be commemorated.

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I bet Timmy OConnor would be delighted to see that when he goes to the capital on Sunday, the blueshirt cunt.

Will he be getting the grand marshal gig

Relax Patt

I am relaxed as could be Tim.

In fact, I wish a lot more were in the same position as me.

Timmy is a blueshirt cunt. Am I wrong?

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I must say, I was delighted to give this post by my good friend @Mullach_Ide it’s 10th like and therefore a Nice Post award, I’d hate to have seen it stuck on 9.

For fucks sake, are there people rioting in the streets over this abomination of a poster? I assume some of you have torn it down by now?

I don’t have a huge issue with the banner to be honest and I think it being placed on the old parliament building is apt. I do think the authorities might have conveyed some sense of what they were at before erecting the banner.

I would have no great objection to Redmonds part in the events leading to and after the Rising being remembered. An air of victimhood has developed around Redmonds memory, a sense that he is being excluded from history.

I would prefer that Redmonds role were remembered better. The man who lead his party into a once in a generation stroke of good fortune (holding the balance of power) yet still through his naivety and weakness fumbled the ball on the goal line. It would have been like Tony Gregory agreeing to postpone his deal until the economic crisis had passed. You don’t do that in politics.

Redmond the man who militarised the Southern Irish youth in founding the Volunteers. Redmond the man who sent tens of thousands of young Irish men to their pointless deaths in Europe to further his dream of one day leading a neutered Irish Parliament. In the modern context he’d be called out as a war criminal but instead attention is fixated on the comparably minimal number of deaths in the five day Rising in the capital.

I would actually like to see a proper focus on Redmond, his motives and motivations achievements and shortcomings rather than this vague ghostly figure and the general sense of a man somehow wronged by history.

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What did Redmond say about the rising? The German plot has failed?

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This is partly true. But it is generally forgotten (or ignored) that it was the Unionists who brought the gun into Irish politics in the 20th century. It was Nationalist Ireland that was pursuing peaceful constitutional politics and change through the ballot box.

The Unionists responded to this constitutional movement by first forming armed militias under the auspices of the viciously sectarian Orange Order. These armed mobs were then legitimised by Carson and Bonar Law, the leader of the Conservative Party no less. After which hundreds of thousands of Unionists pledged to violently oppose the outcome of free elections in the Ulster Covenant, with many signing their names in blood for good measure.

This is the Unionist tradition to which quisling west brit fucks like John Bruton pledge their own allegiance and remember so fondly. They have to gall to then point the finger at Irish Republicans and label them the unconstitutional fanatics who dragged the country into violence. It’s disgusting.

At the end of the day it has nothing to do with nationalism and everything to do with class for the likes of Bruton. The Unionists were violent colonial bigots, but they were still made up of the merchant and landowning classes. The Republicans were made up of shop workers, tradesmen, and farm labourers. For the west brits it’s an easy choice to make.

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Is there an extra public holiday for the cetenary celebrations?

No :rage:

This x 1000.

It cracks me up endlessly when the likes of Tim and ‘noted’ historians attack nationalists of the period for their violent rhetoric when this was largely driven by Unionists and elements of nationalist Ireland merely responded in kind… The most violent incident of them all was the Famine and there was without doubt an element of genocide to it.

I read the below the other day and everything you’ve said above sprang to mind - Tho Ruth Dudley Edwards is a known Orange apologist – (It was only an opinion piece rather than a leading article) but not once did she mention the growth of militaristic Unionism.

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Lip service being paid then really. The Brits got an extra day for the Jubilee innit.

Perhaps they’re holding off to give us a weeks holidays to commemorate the declaration of the Republic.

But fumble in the greasy till
And add the half pence to the pence