1916 rising celebration

I had a look at the Seachtar na Cásca TnaG series again there over the past few days. The one signatory who really performed well militarily throughout the week was Eamonn Ceannt. Its somewhat ironic that he’s very much the forgotten man of the seven signatories.

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Sean Keane is a lovely singer, I love his version of Isle of Hope and Tears

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I’d stand in the rain listening to himself or his sister

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beside a campfire

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I thought there was a wonderful buzz around Dublin today and I thoroughly enjoyed the day. Followed some of a walking tour by an oul’ fella called Noel Hughes around the Moore Street area and saw the spot where the O’Rahilly died and the doorway where the rebels entered the house at the corner of Moore Lane and Moore Street. I almost welled up outside the GPO. I took in a lecture by revisionist historian Felix Larkin in Iveagh House (Michael McDowell was sitting in the front row of the audience) to cap it off and the ridiculousness of some of his points reassured me of the heroic staus of the 1916 rebels.

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The funniest bit of this lecture was where yer man compared the Rising to September 11th, 2001.

He stated that, including the Brits who were killed, the Rising killed 0.16% of Dublin’s population, whereas September 11th only killed 0.037% of New York’s population.

“So on a per capita basis, the Rising was worse than 9/11.”

He did neglect to mention that it wasn’t the rebels in 1916 who destroyed buildings, or the whole attempting to overthrow a colonial oppressor aspect of it, or the fact that the Sherwood Foresters weren’t quite naturalised Dubliners.

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I went to a lecture of his in February and laughed my balls off. Some old blueshirt cunts gave him a prolonged standing ovation at the end. They opened the floor to questions then and some salt of the earth Dub tore into him for his guff. The posh moderator type was repeatedly giving it “Sir, I must insist upon a question now”.

“I leave for the guidance of other Irish Revolutionaries who may tread the path which I have trod this advice, never to treat with the enemy, never to surrender at his mercy, but to fight to a finish…Ireland has shown she is a nation. This generation can claim to have raised sons as brave as any that went before. And in the years to come Ireland will honour those who risked all for her honour at Easter 1916.”
“Eamonn Ceannt’s Last Message”. Irish Independent. 9 July 1926.

“Ireland has shown she is a nation”’, and yet successive governments have led her towards an undemocratic EU superstate. It was hard to celebrate a rising and all those who died for its cause, when you consider what th politicians have done. The pen truly is mightier than the sword :crying_cat_face:

Was tempted to change my avatar to Liam Mellows or one of the other men of 1916, but Farage stays. Ireland out!

It may have been mentioned on here before, but the Brendan O Carroll 1916 piece is excellent, and worth a watch

Unreal. :clap:

I’m in tears watching this again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGhblvkfitk

That Mise Eire song is a bit special. The video montage summarising modern irish history and the proclamation reading were highlights too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERCVSDileo0

Outstanding. I even watched the end again last night and it didnt seem as horrible as I first thought. Still not up with what went before, but thats most likely in keeping with societys progression.

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Real republicans, real people.

@Fagan_ODowd @Tim_Riggins

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will apples still grow in november ?

It’s not a bad article but his conclusion is as daft as Bruton’s hypothesis.

Bruton does state that we would have a similar situation as now for 26 or 28 counties. Redmond’s anger was at the efforts to partition Ireland. Of course that could well have led to war, negating Bruton’s contention that there wouldn’t have been violence.

The 26 had a form of Home Rule by 1920. How that evolved over the years is a matter for debate. The Britain that emerged over the 20th century would not have stopped the 26 moving towards full independence. It all comes down to what the people would have wanted.

guff

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I would tend to agree with that. Home Rule wouldn’t have been set in stone and further delegation of powers may have been sought over the years. However it is impossible to presuppose how events might have unfolded and how events like a World War 2 might have played out in a Home Rule scenario. Also impossible to presuppose that there wouldn’t have been events that might have triggered the reintroduction of direct rule in the way that happened in the North.

In short we can have no idea how Home Rule would have played out.

What about the orange men? bruton forgets them

Bruton is one of them

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