This is what is really irking me about the whole thing.
That we can’t just celebrate it for what it is. Instead it seems we should be half embarrassed and apologetic over it.
I know of one school doing a play about 1916 but they aren’t allowed use any songs that reference the IRA/rebels or are overtly militaristic. Instead it’s all very safe songs, like the national anthem and bizarrely the Fields of Athenrye.
I’m all for valid reasonable criticisms of the rising of which there are probably 100’s many of which I would agree with. But the reasons all these lads seem to give are more or less, it was bad form, the Brits were sound, why didn’t we just ask nicely?
Fucking revisionists applying their current day morality to historic events (but only on the Irish side, no fear anyone would have a look at what the Brits were doing at the same time) seems to be the cool camp to been in these days. Revisipters cunts.
I’m all for ridiculing these ridiculous, reality-free criticisms of the Rising, but I’ve never got the use of the word “revisionist”.
All historical interpretation is revisionist.
I would mean revisionist in the sense that they are revising history rather than revisiting it.
There’s i) history, ie. undisputed facts like “Pearse, Connolly and a group of volunteers marched into the GPO at midday on Easter Monday 1916”, or the seven signatories of the proclamation were executed by the British in Kilmainham Gaol"
and ii) historical interpretation, ie. “If the Rising had not happened, the Irish Parliamentary Party would have been able to get Home Rule implemented after World War I”.
Again, any historical interpretation is revisionist.
I can’t prove ii) wrong, even though pretty much all evidence suggests that is such an assertion is nonsense.
Lovely to bump into Terence O’Rourke, former Stokes Kennedy Crowley Managing Partner, at tonight’s lecture in St Mary’s:
It’s a loaded word, easy to use when you can’t conceive the possibility that what you’ve been indoctrinated with can actually be questioned
Bandage,
Can you recommend a good website for a list of 1916 events coming up?
Ireland before the rising on RTE ONE
Is that to show their loyalty to the monarchy?
Swapping their traditional red for blue.
Did you read the article you stupid little man?
Is there anything at all planned for the Rising?
Seems to be very few details with events only 7 or 8 weeks away.
Watching the documentary on 1966 they seem to have great celebrations all over the country with parades, statues erected and the Garden of Remembrance being opened.
Are you a treacherous Cork weirdo as well?
For just one game? Hardly seems worth the effort if that’s all they’re going to do.
I thought this was quite a good read of an article - Fintan O’Toole in the Guardian.
Well spotted
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How far have we come???
