2015 All Ireland Final - De Duds vs The Yerras

Who scored more from play?

O Connor got 2-5 from play. no idea what Quigley got. Bernard Brogan had a ridiculous amount from play this season.

Agree rating. Having played hurling until fairly recently, and then tried football, I was shocked at how hard it was, just the running.

FAO @Sidney

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/2209151533-cillian-oconnor-wins-golden-boot-race/

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More anti-Ulster bias.

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But again mate, that’s wrong.

Sean Quigley scored 3-36 to Cillian O’Connor’s 3-34.

He scored a goal against Dublin which is not being credited to him.

I know. I saw it with my own eyes.

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interesting how its all about Dublin resources winning things yet there was about 13 players involved in 2011 final involved on sunday. Dublin weren’t fancied then either. to win 3 all Ireland finals by one score takes serious mental strength and this group of players are a special bunch in that regard.Kerry had about 8 players involved in 2011 final and last year’s win which would lead you to believe they had greater resources.

You’re playing fast and loose with the word interesting there.

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The fact that the code hopping cost them competitiveness in both finals is telling.

Correct. There is a world of difference.

There is this bizarre perception that the skills are easier to master in football.it’s complete nonsense.

Something just peddled by the hurling snobs.

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Ah now skills in hurling are harder - any lad could go out and play football with a bit of physical training and not disgrace himself. Could not do that with hurling

Running in football has become pretty much constant now. Gavin seems to let certain players run themselves out over 50 minutes so no pacing.

Next evolution will be a team who get fit enough to go kick pass to kick pass and go direct with no hopping or soloing the way Aussie rules team in compromise seemed to play

Average football team is much physically bigger to average hurling team too but I suspect that will now change based on the way the rules have gone.

You are wrong and all over the place. Biggest team in GAA is Galway hurlers. Hurling is much more of a “battle” game. Football is more movement and structure. Being big is a similar advantage in hurling as being very mobile is in football. Plenty recognised famous hurlers were limited enough but had a good “paw” and very good awareness. Christy Heffernan, Ray Cummins, Donie O’Connell, Aidan Ryan, Lyng were all lads who relied on exceptional physical advantages or one or two important skills. Killkenny main advantage is the bank of physical fitness and perfect hurling Conditioning g they have done over a long period. Any sport in the world has dominant players who are dominant due to raw physical advantages.

A highly thought of skills accusition coach I know says it takes kids longer to solo a football than pick up a sliothar or indeed solo with a sliothars.

Hurling at its best is easier on the eye, no doubt about that. But after that, in actual developing the skills they are around the same.

What’s different is the consistency of skill that’s needed which is definitely more needed in hurling. Your touch needs to be turned on more.

The problem in ireland is we actually don’t understand the true meaning of the word skill.

that post is terribly inaccurate.

and most of the Clare hurling team mid to late 90’s. Micheal Fennelly dogging around the middle of the field was one of the biggets reasons Kilkenny won semi and fina this year.

That’s a totally separate issue, mate, and does nothing at all to further your argument.

There have been players on winning All-Ireland football final teams who never kicked the ball once in the 70 minutes.

I’d like to see somebody try playing in a hurling final and not pucking the ball once in 70 minutes and see how they get on.

Who was that Limerick hurling corner forward who kept kicking goals back in the 90s?

Owen O’Neill. I do occasionally recall him pucking the ball, though.

Apparently Tom Parsons never kicked the ball against Dublin in the drawn game in the 70 mins he was on the pitch.