2017 All Ireland Senior Football Championship, Dublin's continued exploitation of its natural advantages

I still say kicking frees off the ground would ensure better accuracy .

Maurice Fitz would have rabonaā€™d it over the bar.

How similar is that to Ray Cosgrove?

Youā€™re being hard on me from memory, let me have a dig.

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Yeah I get that, but its just the reasoning being that Dublin are considered one of the best of all time, and Mayo are a shower of bottlers, yet in 3 finals only one point separated them and arguably Mayo left it behind them in 2 of those games and were the better side for the most part. Iā€™d consider Dublin great for their will to win, win at all costs mentality and for being able to drag themselves over the line. But for some fine margins then that Mayo side could be the ones being argued as the best of all time. Iā€™ve no real issue with Dublin being lauded, I just find it peculiar enough considering there has been very little between them and Mayo.

In saying that, take Mayo out and no one has come close to the Dubs. Donegal had flashes against them but no consistency.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjtPStkIBlA

Not even remotely close as it turns out.

Yeah a few posters were suggesting that alright.

I completely agree. Dublin are a great team no doubt, but overrated in terms of their ā€œgreatnessā€. They have gotten every lucky break and have gotten the benefit of a number of dodgy and highly impactful referee calls in two finals where they squeaked over the line by a point. Any of a number of those calls go the other way and itā€™s highly questionable whether they win those games.

Well thereā€™s 3 all Ireland medals in the difference for a start

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you can take the nembo black and white viewpoint or you could look at the games between them. 3 one point wins. No one has come as close to the Dubs as consistently over the past few years. Still and all, they found ways to lose/Dublin found ways to win.

Winners win

Well that too but I was talking more about the current teams

And Mayo lose

Champions find a way. Of course you could dig up all the advantages, but at the end of the day, its 15 v 15, and Mayo came up short and will have have to deal with that. And itā€™ll be that way until they get over that line, by whatever means necessary.

Ah no, wouldnā€™t agree with that. Theyā€™ve won 3 in a row, 4 in 5 years. They may have squeaked over the line in the finals but they did enough to win and thatā€™s what great teams do. You have to consider how far ahead of everyone else they are too. Theyā€™ve absolutely hammered teams that were considered decent before their match. They have multiple FOTY on their bench. They are a great team.

In saying all that, fistyball is some load of kack but thatā€™s not to take away from Dublin.

Iā€™d have tapped that CoC free over in my sleep.

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I think these shoulda/woulda arguments are a bit silly but sure Iā€™ll have a go. Dublin play the situation very well, no matter what it is. They are generally calm and focused under pressure. So if, for example, Mayo had got their penalty and scored it, then Dean Rock probably doesnā€™t calmly fist a ball over the bar when heā€™s racing in on goal with a couple of minutes left.
Dublin were quite happy to win by a point and believed once they were one up that they could keep the ball away from Mayo. And the did it.

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I have to say I really enjoyed the final.
Football is like the girl who had a curl right the middle of her forehead, When itā€™s good itā€™s very very good, but when itā€™s bad itā€™s horrid.

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Ah shur I won the the 86 World Cup playing alongside Diego in my sleep once.