2018 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

It isn’t. County players play a lot more club football than they do in the likes of Mayo, Kerry or Dublin.

Conor Clarke did his ACL playing a club league game a couple of weeks before a big championship game a few years back. You clearly don’t have a clue about club football in Tyrone.

We’ve at 7 different senior club champions in the past 8 years. Tyrone clubs have won All Ireland honours at junior and intermediate level in recent years.

Meanwhile 2 clubs have dominated the Derry senior championship over the past number of years. Ballinderry and Slaughtneil have shared the past 8 titles. Slaughtneil are going for 5 in a row.

Look closer to home you obsessive weirdo.

@mickee321, @Sidney, does Eugene McGee still have a once or twice weekly column in the Indo where he rails against modern football?

If not, when did this column cease?

Actually from when to when did the column appear in the Indo?

Club football is stronger in Antrim than it is in tyrone. Tyrone handpicked players from a young agents. You know yourself- tyrone clubs are in disarray, always have been

No it’s not. The Tyrone champions have won all their recent encounters with Antrim sides.

Focusing on a few matches doesn’t change the facts. Carlow are a better gaa county than tyrone

At least one of us is focusing on facts. You’re focusing on deranged constructs in your mind

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Conway is a hypocrite. He talks about 50 strong clubs making a tyrone county team when the reality is that it’s taken 50 weak clubs and a decision to pool resources, to make a county team. Ironically it’s weakened an already weak club scene.
club football is a fair indicator of the strength of the gaa in a county, certainly a better one than county success where population and finances play a far bigger role.
I’ll end the discussion with a couple of questions:
1.How many senior all Ireland club championships have tyrone clubs won?
2. How many final appearances have they made in the same competition?
We’ll not mention hurling

The real strength in depth of club football in a county is shown by the intermediate and junior championships.

Tyrone teams have an outstanding record in this regard, winning three of the last nine All-Ireland intermediate championships, including the current champions Moy.

Tyrone teams have made the All-Ireland junior club final five times since the inaugural competition in 2002. The only other Ulster county to have a team make the final is Cavan, twice.

Tyrone have by far the best record of any Ulster county in each of these championships and taken together they have a massively superior record to any other Ulster county and are one of the top two or three counties in Ireland at those grades.

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They’re not weak clubs. We have a senior championship where there are 7 or 8 sides capable of winning it every year. We have junior and intermediate clubs who are the strongest in Ulster. The last two Ulster intermediate champions have been Tyrone clubs, teams move up the grades and are competitive. Trillick lost an intermediate final in 2015 and won a senior championship the year after. They narrowly lost out to Scotstown after beating the Donegal Champions in the preceding round.

Meanwhile Slaughtneil chase 5 in a row this year after Ballinderry did three in a row before that. Now that’s a farce of a senior championship.

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Good post.

I note Monaghan clubs never get anywhere in the Senior Club Championship but have won the All Ireland twice at intermediate level since it was started in 2004.
Kerry clubs have only won the Senior AI once in the past 20 years but dominate the AI Junior competition.

So they’re not weak within tyrone, only when they face other ulster teams.
That’s brilliant logic there.

No they’re strong when they face other clubs. Derry clubs are weak. 2 different Championship winners in the past 8 years. Pathetic.

Introspection is lost on you.

Why can’t you focus on the mess Derry Club football is in?

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Interesting comparison/contrast here with Crossmaglen’s dominance in Armagh.
During the period of Cross’s dominance the Armagh county team gradually grew very strong and eventually won an AI. Cross’s decline more or less coincided with Armagh’s decline.
Slaughtneil’s dominance won’t last forever. I’d like to think their decline will help make Derry stronger again but realistically it will just make them more shit.

You didn’t answer the 2 questions… Go on and give everyone a laugh

You didn’t ask a question.

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That’s great sid. Maybe they’ll be able to step up a grade soon.

Here you go @Cicero_Dandi
Give us a laugh

Those question bear relevance to the best club team in the country, not the strength of club competition in a county.

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Sure go on and d answer them anyway, even if you don’t want to.

There’s no hard and fast rule as regards whether having one dominant club or strength spread more evenly throughout club football benefits a county team more, but in general the latter tends to be more important.

That isn’t to say having one dominant club can’t raise the standard of the county team. Corofin have been completely dominant in Galway in this decade and the Galway team has gradually worked its way back to strength. Castlebar have become dominant in Mayo. Underneath those though you have a decent spread of strength at junior and intermediate levels in both counties.

Crossmaglen were an outlier in that they were exceptionally dominant not just at Armagh level but at Ulster and All-Ireland level, so dominant that they could backbone an inter-county All-Ireland-winning team. There have been very few teams like that in history in either football or hurling, maybe Birr were another but I don’t think even they backboned the Offaly hurling team to quite the same extent.