2018 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

Derry have a massive disadvantage in that the city is a GAA wasteland. Their numbers are very small when you consider this . Also club hurling is relatively strong in derry.

Nah I reckon the Italian is slaying here. This is Romans’ v Carthaginians.

Some fascinating back and forths here

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Wtf are you talking about. You were lapping up sid’s tripe about junior and intermediate football. Cicero_Dandi has chickened out of answering a straightforward question about his beloved tyrone and yourself and Tassotti are mentioning his debating skills.

With regard to Cross I would generally see them as a negative to Armagh football.

While the Cross golden era did coincide with an Armagh golden era, it was important to note that Armagh were under a Cross man. Subsequent to Kernan leaving saw Cross continue a golden era as Armagh fell off the radar. There is currently big commitment issues with Cross lads for Armagh and it’s not good for the county.

Players opt out of county for Armagh to focus on winning All Ireland’s with Cross, the club Championship in turn was very uncomptetitive, there were a few decent club sides in Armagh like the two City clubs, Cullyhana etc that could put it up to Cross but invariably folded when it mattered. Now it’s coming back a bit.

South Armagh has effectively been the lifeblood of the county team for the past 15-20 years but there has been some great success in North Armagh lately. St Peters won a Hogan Cup this year and there definitely seems to be a higher yield of underage players from this area recently. I think it’s turning around, overall McGeeney has had a positive effect, it was unfortunate for Armagh that so many key players were not available this year.

I think it’s similar in Galway at present, I’d imagine Corofin getting knocked out earlier would have a huge positive effect for Galway next year as there are a number of players in that side that could no doubt improve the current team but have not been in a position to fully commit the last few years due to club duties.

think you have a few dual clubs too Ashman not just slaughtneil

of the derry all Ireland winning football team, a load of them played senior inter county hurling at some stage. Did Brolly ever puck ball at club level I wonder??

Because Derry lads have no interest in playing for Derry, it’s their problem and they don’t seem to want to fix it but it’s a shame as Derry are capable of making some great strides if they showed some unity. The players are there but there doesn’t seem to be any heart or passion to play for their county, they are far too interested in settling old scores and prying on their more successful neighbours.

He sure did .

You can answer your own loaded questions. I’m just pointing out that they bear no relevance to the debate at hand.

u have just given the ulster championship another kick! as well as derry been diseased, Armagh are playing without a heap of their best players

Kieran McKeever and Seamus and Henry Downey off the 1993 All Ireland winning team were inter-county hurlers. There could have been a few more as well. Geoffrey McGonigle a little later was an inter-county hurler as well.

Yes.

I’ve made this point numerous times and with all this at play, Ulster counties still perform far and above the levels of the other three provinces.

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decent minor team last year? got to the AIF

Not tyrone though

Any use?

Sidney’s assessment that Junior and Intermediate success is a better indicator of the overall health of a game within a county is correct in my opinion and the Roman was saying the same thing.

By way of example, one of the clubs in Monaghan that have done well at Junior level in recent years is Emyvale. They have Ryan McAnespie playing for them, whom some here have suggested deserves an all star this year (although I don’t agree with that). You don’t get players like that playing junior football in Derry and it’s a good example how Junior and Intermediate success is part of what makes Monaghan stronger than Derry.

Its great to see fourm heavy weights going toe to toe

a few more did too I think, defo Brian McGilligan perhaps Johnny McGurk

often saw the Downeys sipping ale in Kennedys Drumcondra on all Ireland hurling final day

Gaelic Football is dying. Cork and Meath the joint 4th most successful counties have given up on it. Down and Derry have given up on it in Ulster. Offaly packed it in within a few years of winning their 3rd All Ireland in just over a decade.

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