2018 All Ireland Senior Football Championship

There’s no need to go down this road again @gilgamboa. Remember last time…

Outside of RTƉ which is perfectly understandable, who are you referring to that he doesn’t forgive?

He’s already said he has forgiven RTƉ and the individuals but won’t be dealing with them again on a point of principle.

I find it very, very odd the hatred people possess for Harte based on very little and considered all the tragedy he has gone through in his life.

It is very bizarre.

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What has tragedy got to with it?

There is a real strain of ā€œfeel sorry for usā€ from a lot of nordies

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Northernern people are far more stoic and able to look after themselves in comparison to the snowflakes down south.

I’ll just talk about things in contrast, the vitriol subjected to a man like Harte, particularly when he’s been through so much tragedy is pathetic. If he was from a different county he’d be lauded as a hero.

None of you curs and dogs can rationalise your hatred for him. It’s bizarre.

After 16 years at the helm, any group of players would most likely benefit from a different voice in the dressing room. The soft run to the final has probably given him a few more years and papered over the cracks. The performance in the final was pathetic.

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So 30 intercounty managers must be looking for the road ahead of the new season?

Two Ulster titles and an All-Ireland final appearance in the last three years with what by general agreement is a much more limited team than the 2000s one.

It would strongly seem that whatever Harte is doing, Tyrone are benefitting from it.

Eff off Kev!

4 years is about the right period of time for a manager before it starts to goes stale. There will obviously be some exceptions to that general rule of thumb. The precedent of life after these long dynastic managers who are initially successful but stay on far too long is not good - Mick O’Dwyer in Kerry 1975-89, Sean Boylan in Meath 1983-2005, Peter McGrath in Down 1990-2002.

It hasn’t gone stake though, if what Harte is doing with Tyrone is not good enough then it’s not good enough for 30 other teams.

Down and Meath are classic examples of teams who struggled after the tenure of their most successful managers ended.

Wouldn’t read too much into making the final this year. Tyrone were the beneficiaries of the weak side of the draw and Paddy McBrearty injury. They were pathetic in the final. Tyrone haven’t beaten any of the Big 3 of Dublin, Kerry or Mayo in Championship football since 2008. Harte is not able to win the big games anymore. He should step aside and give a younger man a chance. Someone like Fergal Logan who appears to be very highly rated.

And I’m sick of the sight of him, so it definitely needs shaking up.
He has a very a la carte approach to Christianity.

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You hate him because he’s religious.

I think that makes you a bigot.

The weak side of the draw being the one with Dublin in it in the Super 8s?

Or their qualifier draw in which they had to beat three traditional giants, Meath in Navan, Cavan and Cork?

The weak half of the semi-final draw being against a team who won their Super 8 group and comprehensively beat the other defeated semi-finalists?

Tyrone badly rattled Dublin in the first quarter of the final, doing exactly the same thing Mayo did in the first half last year. The game turned on a penalty. They were never in with a realistic shout of catching Dublin after half-time but they stuck at it diligently in the second half and were far from disgraced. 1-14 is the joint second highest losing score in an All-Ireland final, only surpassed by Mayo’s 1-16 last year.

16 wides to 6 tells its own story as to how and they where can and need to improve.

They have a real road map from which to continue building and if they can bring through another two or three new players next year, they should be able to do that.

Hopefully Brian Kennedy can come in and make a big impact for Tyrone next year.

You’ve given me a reason, that I can believe in, that will help Tyrone be the best they can.

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Riiiight.

The game was over at HT Sid, Tyrone folded like a deck chair.

Yes, weak side of the draw. Tyrone didn’t have to face either Kerry or Mayo the two sides that have pushed Dublin closest over their 4 in a row run. Tyrone didn’t have to face Galway, the 2nd best side this year. Tyrone’s closest rivals in that Super 8 group thing was a Donegal side, who had lost one of their top players Paddy McBrearty. Tyrone were well beaten in Omagh by Dublin, even if they out a bit of respectability on scoreboard last few minutes when Dublin took the foot off the pedal. Final was embarrassing. Most one sided since 2007. Tyrone folded like snowflakes first sign of adversity they faced conceding penalty.

Mayo didn’t qualify for the Super 8s, mate. Therefore it’s rather strange to complain that Tyrone didn’t have to face them.

Neither Kerry or Galway were good enough to win their Super 8 group, Kerry weren’t even good enough to qualify.

Monaghan did win that group, are the only team to beat Dublin in 2018 and Tyrone beat them in the tougher semi-final.

I also seem to remember you saying that Donegal were a better team than Tyrone. Tyrone destroyed them in the crunch Super 8 game in Ballybofey, a venue where no team had won for eight years.

Tyrone’s position as the second best team in the country this year is unarguable.