A new low for Israel. How low can they go?

thereā€™s no possible way shin bet didnt have advanced notice of this between touts, spyware and wiretaps. if one was a cynic, youd have to say that it may have been allowed to happen to give them carte blanch in gaza

Of course they can dismiss her after a warning if they regard her conduct as detrimental to the company.

The way itā€™s been presented by many commentators, including your idiot leaders in the Dail, is she was fired for her opinions on social media. LinkedIn is not social media, companies and employees primaily use it for networking, recruitment and marketing. An employee posting using the company logo in their profile is associating the company with her opinion.

Thatā€™s what will sink her case, imo of course. But sure we will see, maybe they wonā€™t bother fighting it, the cost of a payout deemed far less than the reputational damage to the company.

never said they couldnt dismiss her after a warning, they still have to observe the legalities. fail to do so and you get a generous cash settlement.

we may well have gobshites. in the dail, but you have dangerous idiots in the white house, and on the hill

id love it, love it, if a company tried to plead a case of ā€œwe didnt follow the law or constitutional provisions on fair procedures, but we argue that linkedin is not social media and therefore the plaintiffs case must fallā€

theyd lose in miliseconds, but theyd at least provide a modicum of entertainment

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They could always sign up captain dum dum, the shiny new expert on Irish employment law, to represent them. If heā€™s not still on the run from the feds of course.

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Donā€™t think itā€™s employment law , itā€™s fairness and natural justice of the law in general she would be relying on. Iā€™d say The employment law part could weaken her award even if sheā€™s successful if the WRC believe that her own actions contributed to her dismissal in some way. Iā€™d say a lot will probably hinge on the nature of the warning/ advice she received for first post.
strong possibility theyā€™ll opt for mediation in WRC and it may never see the light of day again.

sight unseen, id ay it could well be employment law as it appears that they may not have given notice, as well as the constitutional requirements.

it wont get within an asses roar of the WRC as theyll settle it if they have any sense as whats emerged thus far has been infinitely more damaging to the company than any of her posts.

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I doubt you can both summarily dismiss somebody and also give them notice

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definitely, but notice is a statutory requirement

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Itā€™s damaging if your audience is a largely pro-Palestinian Irish online crowd. If youā€™re an Israeli company selling in US and elsewhere Iā€™m not sure you really put them at the top of your concerns list.

Theres more to the world than europe and US. Asiapac would be a lot more pro palestinian

Fuck off with the employment law talk ffs :rollseyes:

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He gave an interview to Paul Cunningham on RTE Radio which aired today.

Something extremely strange about that chap.

The area that Hamas attacked was inhabited by how many civilians?

Rocko will have an even bigger conflict on his hands than Israel v Palestine by tomorrow

https://x.com/olilondontv/status/1717148430424752268

This thread is mildly amusing.

Is this conflict even more of a social media/propaganda war than Ukraine?

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Thatā€™s a super article.

If somebody could post the text of it that would be very nice of them.

Hamasā€™s incursion into Israel on October 7th ā€“ and Israelā€™s punitive response ā€“ rhymes with previous inflection points in a conflict that has been raging and simmering for over 70 years.

The main beats of the escalation are familiar: a terrorist organisation knowingly targets Israeli civilians in Israeli territory, sparking a massive military response that targets militants in Gaza and knowingly kills Palestinian civilians. Yet there was something different about ā€œBlack Saturdayā€. There was a visceral brutality to Hamasā€™s attack that shocked Israeli society and commanded the attention of a world that had begun to look on the Israel-Palestine conflict with fraying interest.

Whatever oneā€™s politics, it is hard to turn away from images of kidnapped families. It is impossible, too, to avoid an atavistic sense of horror at the sight of young people fleeing a music festival, strafed by indiscriminate gunfire. Hamas knows well the provocative power of this imagery, as all terrorist organisations do ā€“ which is why, in addition, to reminding the world of its existence and the collective suffering of Palestinians ā€“ it likely anticipated the scale of Israelā€™s response. In the days following the massacre, Israeli defence minister Yoav Gallant declared a ā€œcomplete siegeā€ on Gaza (illegal under International Humanitarian Law); by Tuesday morning, the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) spokesperson rear admiral Daniel Hagari openly characterised Israelā€™s bombing campaign as being focused ā€œon damage and not on accuracyā€. The wholesale destruction of apartment blocks, schools and hospitals, amid the cutting of water and electricity supplies, confirms that, as the days pass, Israel holds true to its word. A ground incursion is imminent; a more protracted conflict seems all but inevitable.

The strategic harnessing of brutality carried across global media, combined with a catastrophic failure of state intelligence and the provocation a ā€œlong warā€, makes the October 7th massacre more akin to 9/11 than the Yom Kippur war of 1973 and brings with it the familiar risk of political stasis. It is worth recalling that the main goal of al-Qaeda was to provoke exactly the type of response wrought by the US; to tear open a sense of national vulnerability knowing that the vacuum would be filled by the illusion that terrorism can be brought to its knees by might.

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Israel-Hamas war: Gulf states walk geopolitical tightrope as popular Arab sentiment condemns bombardment of Gaza
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King Abdullah faces Jordanā€™s gravest challenge since his 1999 enthronement
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Netanyahu tells Israelis a ground invasion of Gaza is coming, despite delays
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Gazaā€™s unique terrain could trigger fiercest urban warfare ever seen
In the coming cycle of violence, we will be confronted with grimly familiar images of death and suffering. How these images are distributed and consumed reflects a rapidly shifting media landscape

The war on terror failed. An extended bombing campaign and ground incursion into Gaza ā€“ likely to achieve tactical goals including the destruction of infrastructure and thinning of Hamasā€™s ranks ā€“ will similarly fail. Military power will not erase the ā€œPalestinian questionā€, nor can it destroy the crushing reality of life in Gaza that has birthed so many Hamas fighters in the first place. A reflexive sense of rage and thirst for revenge among Israeli forces may have been understandable given the horror of the October 7th attack, but the worst decisions are often taken in the most emotive times: the historical failures of counterterrorism ā€“ and the enduring Israel-Palestine conflict itself ā€“ bears that out.

In the coming cycle of violence, we will be confronted with grimly familiar images of death and suffering. How these images are distributed and consumed reflects a rapidly shifting media landscape.

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The ubiquity of smartphones and social media guarantees a relentless stream of content over which Hamas and Israel will battle ā€“ and with which individuals in society can curate a political/moral stance.

Social media implores users to stand with Palestine or Israel (rarely both), or insists they denounce Hamas terrorism or Israeli war crimes (rarely both). This content ā€“ divisive by its very nature ā€“ is intended to be shared ad nauseam, boosted by algorithms that systematically prioritise polarising media, regardless of any concern with truth.

The irony of this is that it plays into the essential trap of terrorism: whether one supports Israelā€™s sovereign right to self-defence or Palestiniansā€™ right to self-determination, the ongoing frenzy of social media activity helps Hamas to cement their identity as the public representatives, and defenders, of Gaza: they become synonymous with Palestine, strengthen their status as regional players in the Middle East and force the ā€œPalestinian questionā€ back on to the public agenda.

Twelve days into the war, Hamas is being battered, but it is controlling the narrative. The United Nations warns that Gaza is on the brink of collapse; Israeli affirms that the siege will not loosen until all hostages are returned. At the time of writing, Israel and Hamas are trading blame over a horrific explosion at the al-Ahli al-Arabi hospital that has killed hundreds of civilians. More so than any other moment of the war since Black Saturday, this explosion ā€“ and the disinformation swirling around it ā€“ captures the emotional gravity of a conflict that threatens to drag regional actors into a cascade of escalation, for which civilians would pay an even greater price.

The standoff could not be grimmer; much now depends on US president Joe Bidenā€™s crisis diplomacy. It is impossible to see how the situation will develop from here, but a toxic mix of political tribalism and the performative nature of social media ensures many have already decided which side to take and what content to share ā€“ shifting realities be damned. The re-emergence of anti-Semitic conspiracies and anti-Arab sentiment offer ugly markers of history repeating itself; yet we are in uncharted territory. One of the worldā€™s most emotive conflicts has flared to its most brutal iteration at a time when media culture incentivises and rewards mass participation, carrying with it unprecedented flows of disinformation and the very real possibility of miscalculation. Never before have so many had a hand in shaping the fog of war at a moment of such consequence.

Dr James Fitzgerald is Associate Professor of Security Studies at the School of Law and Government, Dublin City University and Visiting Professor at the School of Communication, Federal University of Rio de Janeiro

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