A new low for Israel. How low can they go?

@GavReilly, great insight here from mickee321. If you want to get Claire Brock or Ciara Doherty to interview him on The Tonight Show later then please contact him directly via PM.

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Hope you are well @mickee321

Good to hear from you @mickee321 and unreal insight. Hope you are still enjoying a can of Carling, MOTD and the newspaper on Saturday evenings.

Stay safe @mickee321

It’s difficult to understand the rationale behind the barbarity of their actions. If they had limited their attacks to military targets, rockets, embarrassing Israel etc I think the reaction they would have provoked across the world would be far more mixed, nuanced and sympathethic than the one they have unleashed (apart from the tacit support given by the likes of the Paul Murphys, SF-headbanger TDs, BLM organisations etc who I believe have all damaged their own standing through aligning with absolute terrorism)

The reference to ISIS has been repeatedly made. People came to understand that there was no negotiating with ISIS, no level of engagement possible other than complete destruction.

By framing themselves as such are Hamas looking to provoke that level of reaction from Israel. It’s hard to see how it anyway benefits the Palestinian people or cause if that is the case - both in the short term as Israel over-reacts with violent fury and in the longer-term. Is it really more to benefit other actors outside the country namely Iran? Is it just absolute religious fundamentalism?

Or was it just a poorly disciplined militia losing the run of themselves given the opportunity?

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Best wishes to all your relatives and friends in Israel @mickee321 Superb insight into the complexity of the issue too

Provoking the total destruction of Gaza which will provoke a civilisational conflict in which Hamas hopes Israel will be swept aside seems the most likely rationale.

Israel won’t be swept aside, but a catastrophic civilisational conflict encompassing the wider world seems likely.

I have no interest in fighting on behalf of the Israelis, the yanks, the Palestinians or anyone else.

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Great to hear from you again @mickee321

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“We shall fight them on X, we shall fight them on Facebook, we shall fight them on TFK and on Boards.ie, we shall never surrender”

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They are looking to sacrifice their own community, their own people in the pursuit of the destruction of Israel, a destruction that is highly unlikely to succeed let alone come to pass?

That is morally depraved and it is bizarre how anyone could give support, tacit or otherwise, to such a strategy.

The Palestinian people have legitimate claims and have been appallingly treated over the last 50 years + (by both Israel and Arab states) but to my mind the path Hamas have chosen on their behalf is deeply flawed and it’s hard to see how it will advance their cause.

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The only conclusion is they wanted the savage backlash from Israel, so they could draw in the other players around them, working so far

All Irelands have been won on the INTERNET, only a matter of time before that’s extended to wars

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Yes I think so.

Hamas welcome Israel’s periodic bombing destruction because it acts as a recruiting sergeant for them.

Provoking the destruction of Gaza is the ultimate way to create chaos on a regional and world scale. There are wider goals on behalf of Hamas’s international backers to bring down the post-World War II western order.

This is effectively the opening of a second front against the US, the first front being Russia’s war on Ukraine.

It’s not hard to see how Kosovo could be another front. A massively ramped up campaign of terror in Europe will be another.

Now there’s a lovely lady, she could interview me anytime

Delighted to know all is good with you @mickee321 missed you up at Kells. Another great day out.

Bidens war party are about as sharp on the middle east as they are on Ukraine

Great post Mickee. Disappointing to not get a reference to a Sunday drive in there but very informative otherwise.

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