[QUOTE=âcaoimhaoin, post: 1059832, member: 273â]Music is subjective, but itâs really about the quality of the song writing.
I look at it like this, music tells you about where a person comes from and they say if you way to learn about a culture, listen to their song. DD is telling stories but they are not captivating. Not that it matters to him, but what are the chances of an outsider being mesmerized by his music and words? Very little chance IMO. Where as U2, the stone roses, Wu Tang and many others drag you into their world. I donât think he does that for many non-dubs.[/QUOTE]
I am from the back of beyond mate⌠next stop Ellis Island⌠and yet somehow DDs music captures my imagination. Heâs a storyteller⌠plain and simple. I have no idea where the Kilbarrack road is but it doesnt matter.
[QUOTE=âcaoimhaoin, post: 1059832, member: 273â]Music is subjective, but itâs really about the quality of the song writing.
I look at it like this, music tells you about where a person comes from and they say if you way to learn about a culture, listen to their song. DD is telling stories but they are not captivating. Not that it matters to him, but what are the chances of an outsider being mesmerized by his music and words? Very little chance IMO. Where as U2, the stone roses, Wu Tang and many others drag you into their world. I donât think he does that for many non-dubs.[/QUOTE]
Jesus kev, youâre so far up your own rambling arse youâve no idea. If thereâs one thing damo does, itâs drag you into his world. And his worldview pretty much matches your own. You"re made for each other!
Hereâs a controversial opinion in light of recent jubilations in these parts.
If a jock gets done for excessive use of the whip, besides the fine and ban the jockey gets, the horse should be DQâed and prize money forfeited. Otherwise the rule is a fucking sham and the fine and days off are meaningless.
[QUOTE=âDistended Red Anus, post: 1060169, member: 2648â]Hereâs a controversial opinion in light of recent jubilations in these parts.
If a jock gets done for excessive use of the whip, besides the fine and ban the jockey gets, the horse should be DQâed and prize money forfeited. Otherwise the rule is a fucking sham and the fine and days off are meaningless.[/QUOTE]
Why should the horse, trainer and owner be disadvantaged because of a jockeys decision? Handing out proper 5 figure fines and lengthier bans would be far more beneficial.
Because the owner and trainer benefit from the jockeyâs breach of the rules. They jockey may be even encouraged to break the rules by knowing he will be âtaken care ofâ.
Granted there are stiff penalties (3 year ban and ÂŁ30,000 fine) in place to discourage owners from âtaking care ofâ jockeys when they fall foul of the rules, but it can be hard to prove if cash changes hands (much easier to prove if the offender goes on a public forum and boast about his actions to all the hole lickers).
A straight up DQ and forfeiture of purse would be much more effective deterrent. A jock would be less likely to go overboard knowing he will have one pissed off owner and trainer to deal with if he does so.
[QUOTE=âDistended Red Anus, post: 1060366, member: 2648â]Because the owner and trainer benefit from the jockeyâs breach of the rules. They jockey may be even encouraged to break the rules by knowing he will be âtaken care ofâ.
Granted there are stiff penalties (3 year ban and ÂŁ30,000 fine) in place to discourage owners from âtaking care ofâ jockeys when they fall foul of the rules, but it can be hard to prove if cash changes hands (much easier to prove if the offender goes on a public forum and boast about his actions to all the hole lickers).
A straight up DQ and forfeiture of purse would be much more effective deterrent. A jock would be less likely to go overboard knowing he will have one pissed off owner and trainer to deal with if he does so.[/QUOTE]
Would you also then suggest a sports team should surrender titles or awards won if one of the team is found to have cheated or broken the sports rules?
Nah, a trainer deals with a horse every day and a jockey could ride the horse out every day. A relay team probably get together a handful of times a year and in some cases just the once or twice every 2-3 years.
Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. UK is miles ahead of Ireland for whip offences. The Turf Club and stewards may as well shut down as they do fuck all anyway, brandy sipping and cigar smoking aside.