Far closer. The gap has not been closing.
The reality is we will be out of step with most developed democracies we would like to compare ourselves to if this fails. Is Ireland really that backward? I donât think we are.
Eastern seaboard and commuter belt will carry it. He told me that in Ratoath in one estate the figures broke down 113 - 29 in favour of repeal, with 19 undecided. But that day in Navan they found a lot less support for repealâŚ
I know some people who have been canvassing heavily for this and the response has been shocking at times. A lot more no than they thought.
Despite being on TV last night and having lead on this issue for some time Clare Daly has barely knocked on a door.
In your case wishing it was 1973 doesnât just apply to hurling, but to the place of women in society.
Whatever the electorate vote for will be a sign of âdeveloped democracy â. Isnât that what democracy is about .
This has no bearing on whether we vote No or not.
Doctors are insufferable windbags, canât fucking stand the wankers. If they were any more up their own holes theyâd be inside out. More sanctimonious than priests probably.
Also, why the fuck would you value a lawyerâs opinion either? Thereâs nothing in my legal training that gives me anymore insight into the morality of it (some of the practicalities yes). Iâd say on balance the lawyers I know are far less moral than the general population.
Funnily enough, no. For example, in my opinion, we shouldnât have had a vote on gay marriage.
Countries we like to consider ourselves alike to would vote yes, are Irish people more backward than most Europeans? I donât think we are.
We have a little thing called the constitution . Are you suggesting that the government should legislate inconsistent with the constitution ?
Steen was on Pat Kenny on Newstalk there before 10am.
I only heard about three minutes of it, but the tone of her voice was very off-putting.
Harsh, shrill, lecturing, totally lacking in empathy - almost sociopathic in its arrogance, actually.
Sheâs a real nasty piece of work.
1 Like
We need a referendum on this, we didnât need one on gay marriage.
1 Like
Steen has the Yes crowd seriously rattled.
Whatever your views on her opinions she is a formidable debater. Has the repeal side driven demented, they canât get the better of her in this argument so have to resort to personal attacks.
2 Likes
What was the Attorneyâs Generalâs advice on the need for a marriage equality referendum ??
The 8th Amendment and Brexit are very comparable, actually.
Both are deeply simplistic, black and white, deluded, utterly unworkable ideas which hark back to the 1930s, and to which the concept of nuance is an affront.
And the supporters of both donât give a flying fuck about the consequences for Irish people.
Steenâs whole argument is based on vicious personal attacks, lying and shouting over the top of whoever is debating her.
Thereâs a reason she doesnât practice law - itâs because sheâd be found out quicker than Ali Dia.
Steen was lost on radio without a mob of morons whopping and hollering after everything she said.
Kenny eviscerated her, âYou donât trust doctors, politicians or women Maria, who do you trust?â
Ouch.
1 Like
The honest answer is the church and only the church. Itâs been kept hidden as much as possible in this campaign but this is largely a conservative catholic agenda. @dodgy_keeper etc and the ârural voteâ as he puts it is driven by the same agenda.
5 Likes
Home schools her four children as well. Trust is a big issue for MariaâŚ
1 Like
I suspect the word âcontrolâ is as important as âtrustâ
2 Likes