Abortion Referendum Thread

[Matty_Hislop]

I don’t support anyone being murdered. Hope that clears it up for you.

[maroonandwhite]

That’s a bigger problem with Irish society, by that rationale no one should ever admit being suicidal because that will go on your permanent record

[gilgamboa]

@maroonandwhite

Even though you refuse to answer my questions and I’ve already answered this I’ll answer you again.

The yes side are constantly introducing theoretical (of course there are many real cases too) 12 year old rape victims as justification for appeal, watch any debate. If these victims are distraught, mentally destroyed and do not want to see their pregnancies through they should of course be allowed have abortions (arguably the legal framework exists now where they can)

But aside from rape victims, do you think perfectly healthy pregnancies should be ended four months into term? I answered your question…

Whats the law in Canada and how did it affect your day to day life over there?

[gilgamboa]

@maroonandwhite

That’s a bigger problem with Irish society, by that rationale no one should ever admit being suicidal because that will go on your permanent record

If you were suicidal then it is perfectly acceptable that it be put on your record as a guide for future treatment.

[maroonandwhite]

The law is its legal and it didn’t affect my day to day life (bizarre personal comment that has no relevance to the Irish debate)

[gilgamboa]

@maroonandwhite

The law is its legal and it didn’t affect my day to day life

Noted with thanks.

[maroonandwhite]

Yes, but you think that it should be stigmatised? Why would you question whether someone would want to see it on their health record?

[Cicero_Dandi]

Yet you’re voting to legalise the murder of healthy babies of healthy mothers in this state.

[Matty_Hislop]

No I’m not. You seem to be massively confused about what this referendum is about, I’m glad you are not voting.

[Cicero_Dandi]

You are. You don’t seem to know what you’re voting on.

[Matty_Hislop]

I know exactly what I’m voting for.

[gilgamboa]

@maroonandwhite

Yes, but you think that it should be stigmatised? Why would you question whether someone would want to see it on their health record?

Because it may affect your future medical treatment. Nothing whatsoever to do with stigmatising it

[maroonandwhite]

Or it might not, different doctor, understanding doctor etc

[Cicero_Dandi]

You haven’t a notion. You won’t even discuss the healthy babies of healthy mothers who will not get the chance to live because their mother is too self centred to take responsibility of the consequences of her actions.

[Matty_Hislop]

You haven’t a clue. Take responsibility of your own actions and stop being a cunt for a while.

[Cicero_Dandi]

You see. You blank the actual merits of the discussion out. All you can is deflect and muddy the waters.

[Matty_Hislop]

There is no merit in discussing anything with you as you are a hypocritical loudmouth.

[Cicero_Dandi]

I’m glad you have confirmed that you think unborn babies hold no merit in an abortion debate. You’ve showed your true colours now.

[Matty_Hislop]

See, there you go imagining stuff.

[Blake]

@maroonandwhite Cases of rape and incest are the whole reason for the 12 week strand of the permissible terminations. There is no other way that these women can be assisted. None. This is the clear majority conclusion reached by the Oireachtas Committee and the Constitutional Convention. You can’t wait for a criminal process to take place to prove the rape as it would take far too long, and any inquisitive process to green light on the grounds of rape would be seriously psychologically damaging on the victim.

They are the reason for the blanket 12 week proposal. Any other non-rape victims are already travelling to England and ordering the pills online (an incredibly dangerous thing when unsupervised).Right to abortion access is already enshrined in the Constitution. Why can’t we facilitate them in our own country?