Abortion Referendum Thread

Iā€™m not imagining it. You have flat out refused to discuss the merit of unborn babies in the abortion debate. You can wheel out rape victims, Mickey Harte, the church, you can muddy the waters with outright lies about me.

Yet you canā€™t discuss the fate of the unborn babies.

Oooftt, thatā€™s a hammer blow

Not really having a go, just pointing it out. Iā€™m sure people will listen to your views on hurling or a bit of slagging back on forth etc. On matters of morality not so much though

Iā€™ve backed up everything Iā€™ve said about you with direct quotes. I know you are an extremely narcissistic loner who thinks everything on here is about you, but this thread is not.

So stop spamming the thread with your incessant drivel.

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The starting point for every medical treatment is your medical history. Of course you could explain what happened but 1. Why the fuck should you have to and 2. They may not believe you

Youā€™re essentially proposing the most Irish solution to a problem ever. Instead of dealing with a very traumatic incident in the same manner it is dealt with all over the western world you go in and try to convince one or more doctors your suicidal.

Thats not very fair to ask women to do this is it

You have not discussed the fundamental aspects of the debate at all. You flat out refuse to and in turn you engage in a campaign of lies and deflection.

Amazing that you donā€™t enjoy this style of debatingā€¦

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You donā€™t engage in anything worthwhile. You just shriek about baby murder, irresponsible mothers and people who have sex.

You cap all of this nonsense off by revealing you donā€™t even vote. Youā€™re a waste of space.

I donā€™t know. I donā€™t recall any debate on the need for a referendum. I am not comfortable with the concept of having a referendum on equal rights for a category of people. We shouldnā€™t be so self congratulatory about it.

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I assume the advice was that a referendum was required . As I understand marriage was defined in the constitution .

i think you are completely irrational and unable to accept differing views, here is your contribution to this thread over the past 24 hours.
get some fresh air.











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Good posts, most were directed at you and Totti.

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OOOOOFft. Senior fucking hurling here lads!

you are an intolerant individual with a big mouth, keep up the great work between now and the 25th please.

Nothing about a man and a woman in the Constitution. It would have been challenged in the courts of course but they could have have circumvented that by President referring the legislation. I think they went for a referendum as they didnā€™t want to be responsible for the change.

:laughing:

The irony metre just exploded there.

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Nice to see all of @Matty_Hislopā€™s posts in one place. Clear consistent and reasonable contributions.

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It was nice of him to collate it all for me.

Ok, and this is my third time saying it, I believe they should be facilitated in Ireland. Itā€™s arguable the framework already exists that they should be.

But, what relevance does that have to perfectly healthy babies, not rape or incest victims or babies with little chance of survival outside the womb. All of these ā€˜hard casesā€™ should be catered for and all assistance given, absolutely. But Iā€™m of the opinion that allowing abortion on demand goes way beyond what is necessary to be reasonable and compassionate. Clare Daly last night seemed to have no issue with full term abortion for healthy pregnancies. Watch the interview. I certainly donā€™t support that, you and others might, thatā€™s your opinion, letā€™s have a vote to see whoā€™s holds sway.

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To change the constitution you have to have a referendum. The constitution had defined marriage as being between a man and a woman did it not