And maybe this is the legislation that should be amended not granting free reign to terminate healthy babies.
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Yes, morals. The one argument that is absent from the Yes side.
Indeed. I have a friend who induced an abortion with a few bottles of whiskey and a load of speed as she couldnât afford to travel. Surely it would be better for the likes of her to have access to treatment here. Safer anyway.
I donât vote. I donât recognise either state on this island, but for those who, I implore them to vote no.
Your morals are informed by the church and a misplaced sense or moral rightousness. Other peoples by reason, compassion and living in the real world. Itâs grand for you that you canât or donât want to think for yourself but what make you so sure youâre right and everyone who disagrees is wrong!
Ultimately youâd rather contemn thousands of innocent lives to death annually than cast a vote to save them. Absolutely and utterly despicable. And then you implore other people!? You can only implore them not to vote!
How can you support SF if youâre an abstentionist?
A more obvious question would be to ask how can he support an amendment to a Constitution he doesnât recognize.
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I was talking about adoption here but yes better legislation about abortion is needed, thatâs what Iâve been saying?
Itâs a compromise I guess, you are suggesting wholesale abortion when it seems a majority of the country donât want it be forced in instead.
I have, heâs an excellent thinker and writer.
Yes. The world is way overstocked with people anyway and a woman should have to right to say no. Iâd say this situation is rare though as most people who want to abort abort before 12 weeks. Youâve very few women who want to let a baby grow to a good size and then abort for the craic. It just doesnât happen a lot.
See, for all these so called âexpertsâ the No side puts forward who claim that the 8th Amendment doesnât deny women healthcare, there are hundreds of women who have come forward to prove them blatantly wrong, telling their stories in both mainstream media and on social media such as the âIn Her Shoesâ page on Facebook.
Why the fuck would anybody take seriously the views of so called âexpertsâ who are clearly willing to put religious dogma ahead of patient care (a serious breach of medical ethics) when there are so many women who have driven a coach and horses throough their lies?
Such as this woman.
Try this link if full article doesnât appear.
Now thatâs an argument worth having. If we repeal can we bring in legislation to abort layabouts?
What the fuck does âwholesale abortionâ mean? Any woman who wants to terminate a pregnancy today can do so. Do you think that if the 8th is repealed women will be going mad for abortions? What an absolutely ridiculous opinion in this day and age. Abortion rates are trending down in all countries where they it is legal (including Ireland) due to education and access to contraception, what on earth do you think would reverse this trend?
The Adoption Alliance of Ireland âstrongly advocatesâ repeal of the 8th Amendment.
http://adoption.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/ARA-Position-Paper-on-8th-Amendment.pdf
Nobody advocates forced abortion.
You mean your morals. My morals are ok with it.
So is increased access to contraception and education not a better answer?
The scope for better legislation is very limited under the current explicit constitutional restraints (to my understanding)