You may forget about it so.
You’re grounded in Galway and associated with Canada
What? Im saying you don’t, or didn’t yesterday, thats the only pronouncement you made on it
This referencing canada is truly bizarre. Up there with mickey harte and hbv rides prostitutes, entirely irrelevant to a debate on the irish referendum. Only one side on here shouting people down.
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I don’t know is the honest answer - I simply haven’t done any digging on O’Rourke’s background and whether he is religious or not.
However, if this is so, it would make sense. I get the distinct impression from what I have heard of him during the campaign that he will be a No voter as he has consistently allowed No campaigners to ride roughshod over him on his progamme.
And that today wasn’t Steen or Quinn or Ganley, it was Ascough, who is useless against any sort of competent questioning.
I mean, when Ascough lied about women suffering “regret” after abortion being an accepted trend, O’Rourke should easily have been able to rebut her with this. But he didn’t, and left it completely unchallenged.
very interesting Red C poll here from March 2017
https://www.repealeight.ie/public-opinion-what-the-polls-revealed/#tab-id-5
The q was should abortion be legal under the following circumstances;
Serious Risk to Physical Health – 82%
Serious Risk to Mental Health – 72%
Rape – 76%
Fatal Foetal Anomaly – 67%
Foetal Anomaly (non-fatal) – 47%
Socio-economic grounds – 21%
On Request – 23%
It was clear there was huge public support for ‘the victims of pregnancy’ and that there was very little support for abortion as a lifestyle choice or a means of birth control.
So what happened in the meantime that Simon harris and all the lefty headbangars attempted to railroad through abortion on demand when it was clear the majority never wanted it?
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you have met our friend from Tyrone residing in your home county on here?
I referenced Canada to you once, but that was only in a general query as you had lived there for a period of time and would bring a different outlook or info to a debate.
Others referenced it yesterday, and gil now. Im sure we’ve all lived in countries where abortion is legal. i am wary of constitutional amendments, for cynical reasons about irish politicians. One thing canada has taught me is how politicians there seem in the main to want to improve society and are not slow to reform to do so. There are exceptions but they just dont give the impression they are there for self enrichment or jobs for the lads that many irish politicians do.
Can anybody explain how the 8th Amendment has helped women in Ireland since 1983?
In any way, any way at all.
You’re alive aren’t you
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Sidney is a woman! 
there are 60,000 - 80,000 women alive today that wouldnt have been born wityhout the 8th ammendment
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Stop plucking stats from your arse 
there are female friends of yours whose existence is down to the 8th amendment
Stop making stuff up.
We had this inserted into the constitution, not due to public demand but because of pressure by a Catholic pressure group organisation by über Catholic Knight of Columbanus John O’Reilly. In 1981 he created The Pro Life Amendment campaign though the coalition of a number of Catholic organisations. O’Reilly campaigned vehemently against family planning and rights of women throughout the seventies.
When the vote was taken in 1983 less than 54% of the electorate actually, with a 67/33 split in favour of its insertion into the constitution.
I’m old enough to remember that particular campaign, the issue was deflected from the effort of the article on the right of individual choice to one of being for or against abortion. J
Emily O’Reilly has covered the issue and it’s genesis really well in Masterminds of the Right which can still be reserved in the libraries
https://www.amazon.com/Masterminds-Right-Emily-OReilly/dp/1855940442
Diarmuid Ferriter also touches on this and other tie-women-to-the-sink types in Ambiguous Republic: Ireland in the 1970s. A good read for the summer…
Edit to correct date of voting
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Interesting reading pb thanks.
Thank you to Eamon Dunphy for a calm and respectful chat about the referendum.
Unfortunately, in a separate conversation, John Waters stormed out of the studio after unleashing a stream of expletives. 
https://twitter.com/Dunphy_Official/status/997088742539169797
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You’re absolutely correct that the concept of the 8th Amendment was only introduced by the conservative Catholic lobby in the first place, and it’s the conservative Catholic lobby that is overwhelmingly leading the campaign to keep it this time.
194,000 more people voted to give Irish women the explicit right to have an abortion in 1992 than voted for the 8th Amendment in 1983. Irrefutable proof that the deepest hypocrisy existed and still exists among so much of the No side on the issue of abortion.
The dirty little secret the No campaign has is that the 8th Amendment relies for its existence on Britiain’s abortion laws - if, hypothetically, Britain banned abortion tomorrow morning, No campaigners here would be fuming, because they would no longer have the safety valve that is necessary to indulge their delusion that abortion doesn’t happen in Ireland.
To put it another way, the 8th Amendment is umbilically tied to Britain’s abortion laws, which offer it protection like a foetus is protected by a mother’s womb.
The 8th Amendment is fundamentally about delusion, illusion and cowardice, the delusion of the idea of Holy Catlick Oireland which was built up in opposition to Cruel, Godless England.
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I know one of his sons, not involved in anything like that. His eldest daughter is one of the most well regarded human rights lawyers in Ireland and the UK, a lot of her work has been for abuse victims such as the Magdalene Laundry survivors.
I’ll probably be voting not to repeal but the fact that if no wins these weird cunts will be taking it as people voting for them is very annoying for me