Abortion Referendum Thread

I was out in the car there earlier. I was behind two cars. An 09 Jag which had a protect the 8th sticker and a 161 Dacia Sandero which had a love both sticker

where are you getting 190k from?

Gays are people too you know - and when attitudes like yours disappear, then they might relax the agenda ā€¦

Just be thankful youā€™re not a non-catholic in this country, then youā€™d really know about being subjected to an agenda.

It makes abortion less accessible.

The right thing to do is to start criminalising those who go abroad to get abortions.

We could put them in homes until they have the babies.

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absolutely. those couples who are wanting children but their pregnancy is non viable should be forced to carry the child to term and give birth even though the child will not survive. Its not as if they are already under enough strain, they should feel the full force of the law too.

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How do you plan on doing this?

He wants women held in a concentration camp and medical exams carried out on them to see if theyā€™ve had an abortion ā€¦ and he claims @caoimhaoin hates women :rofl: ā€“ this is the mindset of a fundamentalist - no different than the nazis or the Talibanā€¦

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How would you propose these homes pay for themselves? Who would run them?

Non-viable? Elaborate.

On the flip side, parents who donā€™t think their child deserves to sample life because it has some sort of disability such as DS are entitled to deprive that life. What do you think of that?

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@Rocko please sort this out. Heā€™s saying Iā€™ve mentioned putting women in concentration camps when Iā€™ve done nothing of the sort.

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Going crying to Rocko now :slight_smile:

No surprise to see that someone from Tyrone is a tout.

Iā€™m being slandered. I suppose youā€™d much rather I sit here and have comments attributed to me that I never made from some shrew of a poster?

Youā€™re a grass.

if you dont know what a non viable pregnancy is then you should not be commenting on things to do with this referendum specifically about pregnancies and choices.

I dont agree with abortion. Itā€™s not a choice I would chose. However it is not an option as a choice and it should be as my opinion is not the same as others. You mention DS and even though DS Ireland have specifically requested not to be included in this referendum campaign, unless you specifically request a DS test during the first 12 weeks of your pregnancy, which is not common and not usually done, then your knowledge of the child having DS will be outside the 12 week period and the chances are that the parents are wanting the child regardless. Some would chose not to upon learning that news, I wouldnt agree with that choice.

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Has he told you how heā€™d criminalize women who travel abroad for an abortion yet?

He has no answer to it, I asked him before and all he could say was let the law do its work.

He has absolutely no idea about what he posts. His self-loathing and fear of women has messed up his mind to an extraordinary level.

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Iā€™m merely looking for action to be taken against a nuisance poster who is incapable of rational debate.

Odd that your response to a question is a stock ā€œif you donā€™t know what it is then you shouldnā€™t be commentingā€. Why canā€™t you address a straight forward question on a term you brought into the debate?

Thatā€™s fairly weak on the DS angle. You either think itā€™s wrong that parents can abort children on the case of a disability or you donā€™t. Abortion raises the ability to do so and from a human point of view I find it disgusting.

I made a comment on a very widely used and understood phrase to do with pregnancies and the necessity in cases to have a choice of abortion. If you cant understand the term, then you really should do more research and understand what is actually going on. Iā€™m not here to hold your hand and explain very simple terms and language used commonly. The fact that you need explaining on what is a non viable pregnancy shows your very basic lack of knowledge on these matters.

Its not a weak angle, its my opinion. You have yours. It would not be a choice Iā€™d make, and I also do not believe that it is a choice many would make as under the proposed legislation it would fall outside of the legalities of doing so. I would not agree with parents who would make the decision to do so. However I do believe the option of abortion should be available as it is a necessity in a lot of cases and if a pregnancy is going to be terminated, it will happen whether is here or in England. We should be doing what we can to ensure the right medical support is here for those who feel they have to do so.

Also, what has not been discussed much is the necessity of removing the 8th amendment in its current guise due to the danger it poses to wanted pregnancies that during pregnancy or later on during birth when complications occur. Medical practitioners are caught under the legislation to treat both mother and child in the womb as equal, and thereby causing greater risk to the mother carrying the child. If a complication arose, most partners if faced with a horrible choice of who to ensure is given priority would always pick the mother, however this question under the current legislation cannot be asked and doctors are forced to work on both equally, even though it could put the mothers life at risk. The above has nothing to do with abortions, but has everything to do with the 8th amendment and is currently affecting every wanted pregnancy.

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