What?
Iâd be more than willing to send on the full pdf with the partyâs approach and outline to repeal.
For clarity.
The murder of anyone is wrong. Its absolutely fascinating that i actually need to type those words.
Whether its sfira blowing up childeren for so me sick reason or a mother instructing someone to kill their unborn baby with a syringe and then pluck it out of them while itâs still warm .
The abortionists clearly do not agree with this.
Because abortion is murder.
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Before i could take them seriously on issues such as this one Sfira should tell where they buried all those human beings up the north.
How is this going to play out for Sinn Fein in Tyrone and similar constituencies up North. Could it cause a split?
Wouldnât you just love to get some dirty Sinn Fein scumbag knocking on the door looking for a vote. Iâd absolutely love it
Repeal only concerns the 26, mate ⌠Iâm sure plenty of party members disagree, itâs one of those topics that will split families / friends not to mind political parties ⌠But we are focusing on the fact that repealing the 8th also saves lives - and that we have to live in the real world where abortion is already here on the island of Ireland. Sticking up certain posters or reading letters from the pulpit is not going to stop abortion, itâs just pushing it underground and more worryingly, to unregulated sources off the internet. Abortion has been around for millennia and will always be there - itâs sad, but also a fact of life. Our party want to face up to this reality and offer our women (and medical practitioners) a safe environment and 21st century care for the multitude of reasons they may need an abortion⌠But to also protect the mothers life in life threatening instances - this is being glossed over way too much.
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Completely nonsensical point, running from having to deal with the issue. SFâs whole point is theyâre not pacifists. Youâre not a pacifist either, why do you suddenly start pretending to be one whenever women are the ones making the decisions.
If you kill an intruder to protect your house or land youâre a hero. Conservative politicians will stand up in the Dail to support you. @HBV would probably shake your hand. No-one ever explains why itâs different when women kill to protect their bodies. Why is a manâs right to property more important than a womanâs right to bodily integrity, property over her body?
[quote=âTank, post:1191, topic:23116, full:trueâ]. SFâs whole point is theyâre not pacifists.
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Itâs a big risk for the party to take such a stance - we can alienate ourselves from potential votes and even anger some of our own members â but being a true republican means standing up for your beliefs and challenging social justice/ injustice⌠We believe in Irish women to do the right thing. We also believe that medical practitioners should be allowed save womenâs lives and not fear criminal convictions for doing so.
Other parties will play it low key and run the political gauntlet but they are all about wink and nod politics -
Youâre part of a generation that have twisted an inability to move on from the past into a perverted virtue. Youâre a dinosaur from a generation of dinosaurs. You think youâre inability to deal with 2018 is something to be proud of.
Thatâs what youâre offering Irish women in 2018? Some lass doesnât want to bring an inviolable baby to fruition, doesnât want some half-formed goblin squeezing out of her vagina only for it to die 10 minutes later and your response to all that moral complexity is âFind me the bodies of the disappeared, the IRA back in the 70s you know, blah blah blahâŚâ
Completely pathetic.
Youâre a moral failure and the produce of a failed generation of Irish intellectuals.
Your generation of Irish writers, journalists, pseudo-intellectuals, whatever, were a bunch of one trick ponies who trained themselves to use one particular hammer very well so they spent the next 30-40 years just hammering everything the same way. They could make so much racket hammering away like that that they could cover up that they had really very little else to say.
Pretty much since the Celtic tiger started itâs been exposed that they donât really know anything about anything else. Theyâve failed the country completely since then.
Rather than do the decent thing and just accept their own redundancy their solution is now to try and keep the 1970s/1980s going forever and try and turn that into a some sick moral virtue. Youâre the perfect example.
Youâre lucky you found a doormat wife.
People of that mindset actually perpetuate the troubles while everyone else tries to move forwardâ people of that mindset also caused the troubles but thatâs another story.
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SF have become more populist than the populists themselves.
I agree with this. Iâm still not sure what Iâll do and I know a lot of people who feel the same way.
So youâre now campaigning that hundreds of thousands of women should be facing murder charges in the courts, mate?
Wonderful analysis there Batty. Really insightful.
Thanks Bob. With their fawning over the traveler ethnicities and their willingness to bring Brit style abortion on demand to these shores, they will reap the rewards from a few fools. I should say that I voted for them when it was neither safe nor popular but never, ever again.
Iâm quietly confident the silent majority in this country who donât give it the big âun on Twitter or wear those daft repeal t-shirts will come out to vote and oppose abortion on demand.
As the poster says - âI am 9 weeks old. I can yawn and kick. Donât repeal me.â
Love both -Vote No.
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Itâs a big risk for the party to take such a stance - we can alienate ourselves from potential votes and even anger some of our own members â but being a true republican means standing up for your beliefs and challenging social justice/ injustice⌠We believe in Irish women to do the right thing. We also believe that medical practitioners should be allowed save womenâs lives and not fear criminal convictions for doing so.
Other parties will play it low key and run the political gauntlet but they are all about wink and nod politics -
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Ah would you stop. This newfound political integrity you seem to have found is a load of bollox. This is cynical populism from sf aimed at gathering younger voters and letting the rest die off. A brave stance would have been to confront the bullying within the party. A brave stance would have been to let your tds vote in their own conscience. Well done though. The chairs did look straight in carrigaline.
Those who want to keep abortion banned are neither silent, nor a majority.
Theyâre a very vocal minority of headbangers.