Abortion Referendum Thread

Are you drunk? You’ve really lost it. :smile:

How have I lost it? You have admitted that it is only the biological connection to the child that puts responsibilities on a male and restricts their choices for 18 years. But the certain part of the biological connection of a woman to the process of life creation gives them absolute rights, as it is for 9 months.

Once again, if you believe that the fetus is only a woman’s and part of her body, then “paternal” obligations should not exist.

Princess is for repealing it, but to be amended to allow for special cases such as rape and fatal foetal abnormalities etc. etc. and not abortion for all.

I’m also in favour of amending it. I’d favour abortion for all.

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Mate, the foetus is entirely a part of the woman’s body.

It has nothing to do with anybody else.

A man put it there. Step up.

You dumb cunt.

It’s a rather obvious point that you’re missing, here, mate.

It’s hard to know whether you’re missing it as a result of misogynism, wilful ignorance, drunkenness, or sheer stupidity, but whichever of those it is, it doesn’t paint you as a particularly considered individual.

These two lines fundamentally contradict one another. :joy:

Now let’s just say for example that science advances where the fetus can be taken from the womb early in the pregnancy and incubated in an artificial womb (have a read about what has gone into this) until it becomes viable. Therefore the woman’s link to the fetus is severed. In that instance, however, would you still call on the mother to take up financial responsibility for the child when it comes to term?

Men worried about women’s rights and how they reserve the right to abort is a joke. Plain and simply it’s the most selfish act a human can do. It’s a scandal to think people want to legalise it on the grounds of choice. The choice is gone when the new life is created. It becomes murder after that.

No, you are simply a hypocrite. You believe the man’s biological link to a child gives him obligations he can’t duck out of. His life should be restricted to a degree where he must provide financial support for a child, hence giving up his body for someone else. Yet you provide absolute rights to women.

No. We won’t just say.

It’s in a woman. The fantastic fuckers…

Not a test tube.

Deal with it.

Oh poor, Timmy. This must be all so complicated for you. :grinning:

Have a read about artificial wombs.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/artificial-womb-free-births-just-got-a-lot-more-real-cambridge-embryo-reproduction

Scientists have been researching this stuff for decades, since IVF came along.

This is actually reality, artificial wombs are coming.

So lets say in that instance we can remove the cells/fetus from a woman near the start of term as the woman does not want to carry a child to term. The man wants the child. When the child is viable, should the woman have to pay child support?

I would be in favour of the choice in the case of rape and fatal foetal abnormality but not in any other cases.

Good question.

No no no

The foetus is part of the woman.

It is not in any sort of other womb.

A woman can decide about her body.

If you want to introduce legislation about test tubes, go for it.

You dumb cunt

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Can you please answer the question. If science advances so that a man can petition to have a fetus removed from a woman’s body and incubated in an artificial womb until it comes to term, should the woman have to pay child support?

Has it advanced?

No.

Legislate for the here and now.

You dumb cunt.

Petition? You appalling cunt.

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Are new born babies being Aborted or Terminated these days?

Jesus. Gone off topic a bit but still a civil answer would be polite.

That’s not being realistic har and you know it.

You mentioned Murder you dense cunt.