Dont draw him on me again please.
No winners there. Player was entitled to come back on. Referee should have stuck to his guns. Management should have stuck to the agreement to play extra time.
Probably been as well off call the replay and go home.
I wonder what the full time score was really.
no, player was only entitled to come back on once the 10 mins was up for the black card. Its a stupid anomaly with red and yellow cards that the GAA have not fixed.
If you get a red card at the end of a game, you can start extra time with 15 players. If you get a black card at the end of a game, you have to start ET with 14 players.
The GAA rule book, you have to love it.
I thought a new game was a new game. Thats interesting.
Pedantic at all?
When I said no one was giving Cork a chance I hadnât realised that people would assume that I felt absolutely nobody in the world was giving Cork a chance
I reckon Cork might have a chance actually.
Iâd be surprised if Galway were good enough to beat Cork, you are going back to the Leinster final replay in 2018 for the last big game Galway hurled to a really high level for a full match*.
The ability is there but it just seems like more and more diminishing returns from the 2017 crew each year and they are a team somewhat caught in transition.
*I appreciate they beat the shit out of Wexford in 2020 but that was moreso down to Wexford being miles off the pace.
Sounds like a classic case of a referee crediting the wrong team with a score. A common enough occurrence
In the last 11 months Cork have beaten Clare, Kilkenny and Waterford in key knock out championship matches.
Galwayâs most noteworthy win in the last four years was beating a Tipperary team going for two in a row in November 2020 in a match which had no spectators. A pretty short amount of time proved that Tipperary team was already over the summit of the col, had newspapers inside their jerseys and were descending quickly.
Itâs not impossible Galway could dig out a performance and win but I donât see any logical basis for predicting them to win.
Itâs not easy when thereâs people roaring at you from all sides tbh.
When you read Joe Canning worrying about this and that, you can get a glimpse of why.
If theyâre roaring at you from all sides you must be making an awful bollix of it.
Indeed.
Thatâs exactly what it is I reckon. Crediting the score in the wrong column is actually a 2-point swing in the correct score. Glanmire may well be correct in believing theyâd won by a point.
On the other match there are two questions:
Firstly, just how good are Wexford? Will the team that beat Kilkenny show up or will we see the one who struggled against Dublin, Galway and Westmeath? It is tough to get a handle on their form. They certainly have some excellent hurlers in Liam Ryan, Reck, Chin and ROC and a few other lads who on their day can be very effective, but I do think that they are probably a couple of defenders short at the back and may well drop an extra defender in meaning they have 5 forwards which will negate their ability to put up a score. 1-19 v Galway, 23 points v Dublin, 21 points v Westmeath and 1-22 v Kilkenny are fairly low scoring returns and you are going to struggle to consistently win games if you arenât hitting 28 points + in championship hurling.
For Clare, the question is how much did the Munster final take out of them and can they play to a similar level of form that they have in the 5 championship matches to date. I think if their energy levels are right and they play to form they will win.
But it would be interesting to see if Wexford could get an early run on them, aside from a couple of points here or there throughout the two Limerick games, Clare havenât really trailed in any of their matches so far this year and havenât had to chase a game or hurl from behind. You would feel that for Wexford to win they would need a good start and 5 or 6 point lead to sow some doubt into Clare and see does it unnerve them.
On the other match there are two questions:
Firstly, just how good are Wexford? Will the team that beat Kilkenny show up or will we see the one who struggled against Dublin, Galway and Westmeath? It is tough to get a handle on their form. They certainly have some excellent hurlers in Liam Ryan, Reck, Chin and ROC and a few other lads who on their day can be very effective, but I do think that they are probably a couple of defenders short at the back and may well drop an extra defender in meaning they have 5 forwards which will negate their ability to put up a score. 1-19 v Galway, 23 points v Dublin, 21 points v Westmeath and 1-22 v Kilkenny are fairly low scoring returns and you are going to struggle to consistently win games if you arenât hitting 28 points + in championship hurling.
For Clare, the question is how much did the Munster final take out of them and can they play to a similar level of form that they have in the 5 championship matches to date. I think if their energy levels are right and they play to form they will win.
But it would be interesting to see if Wexford could get an early run on them, aside from a couple of points here or there throughout the two Limerick games, Clare havenât really trailed in any of their matches so far this year and havenât had to chase a game or hurl from behind. You would feel that for Wexford to win they would need a good start and 5 or 6 point lead to sow some doubt into Clare and see does it unnerve them.
Clare will bate them with their caps
Will Clare finish with fifteen though? The refs will be on red alert for their antics tomorrow.
Meanwhile in BlaalandâŚ
The developed, primed and trained mind often flies in the face of populist opinion. As Lao Tzu observed, âwhen the effective leader is finished with his work, the people say it happened naturallyâ.
After a defeat for Clare, Cork, Wexford or Galway this weekend, the language will invariably rebound to the classics:
âSure we havenât the hurlers.â
âThe legs are gone.â
âHeâll have to go.â
But what is abundantly clear is that, leaving aside the individual skillsets for now, the psychological strength each team possesses and their ability to utilise it under pressure could be the difference tomorrow.
Some observers believe that decision-making cannot be learned through training. Thankfully with coaches like Currid, McCarthy, Keegan, and Darcy linked to our teams, there is awareness that thinking can be the difference in controlling your behaviours. And this contributes greatly to the quality we are seeing.
What Egan, Lohan, Shefflin and Kingston have done in facilitating the involvement of such quality people is similar to what Clive Woodward achieved when involving Yehuda Shinar to help devise the TCUP (Thinking Clearly Under Pressure) maxim.
Shinarâs template for preparing the mind for pressure is used widely across intercounty dressing rooms.
âWinningâ involves identifying opportunities, pressurising opponents, decisiveness, time management, momentum, self-control and one on one situations. All four managers involved this weekend know this.
GALWAY v CORK
Gearoid McInerney revealed that Galway âdidnât overanalyse thingsâ after the Leinster Final and they can fix âitâ on the pitch. Over the season, the top coaches will have integrated sessions on how to manage momentum, how to manage pressure and how to ensure self-control.
Itâs very hard to see a discernible strategy Galway are trying to implement. Like all teams they have a third midfielder, two sometimes one inside, a sitting 6 and a crowded middle third.
The absence of a definite puckout pattern is baffling. Granted Conor Cooney has been very impressive at centre forward but placing Cathal Mannion at 11 provides a different conundrum for CiarĂĄn Joyce. A half forward line of Conor Cooney, whose cuteness may discommode Mark Coleman, Cathal Mannion and Joseph Cooney would see Galway gain firm aerial advantage. An inside two of Concannon and Whelan, with perhaps Jason Flynn given the third midfielder role, may bring the necessary improvement.
Galway have done reasonably well at disguising their biggest flaw, a distinct lack of pace in their defence. The knock-on effect of an overpopulated middle third, which allows both GearĂłid Mac and DaithĂ Burke to hold their spots, is a sparsely populated final third.
In this regard, the outstanding Darren Morrissey â a cornerback with pace, aggression and hurling â must begin taking on the Barry Nash role of attacking and hurting from deep. A deep dive of the Leinster Final will have delivered a simple solution: Be More Clinical.
Corkâs blend of pace, guile and madness must be on point if they are to progress against a fired-up Galway side.
The easy adage of âSame aul Cork/Same aul Galwayâ will greet one of the management teams afterwards but in my opinion this is not the truth.
Galway will infuse blood next year and Cork will continue their development and journey towards the summit. Springboarding their revival has been Joyce at 6.
For the first 20 minutes in games, he situates himself on the edge of the D, successfully instructing Luke Meade, particularly, to track his deep 11. The Cork âpack mentalityâ has improved as OâFlynn, Kingston, Fitzgibbon and OâMahony have all the qualities needed to hunt, dispossess and drive forward.
Lehaneâs role has been crucial also. Despite lining up conventionally in the 15 spot on opposition puckouts he heads straight out to the middle third once it goes over his head. Furlong and Mulcahy will have simulated the big conundrum: âHow do we press, yet how do we protect?â
Cork may well consider Thurles to be the venue where Patrick Horgan weaves his wizardry.
CLARE v WEXFORD
Talk of wizardry, the various disciplinary bodies of the GAA seem to have a touch of Hogwarts about them. This weekâs events deepened my regret at not pursuing clemency for Conor Gleeson ahead of the All-Ireland final of 2017.
Leaning on a legal wizard to identify a âtechnicalityâ is something that I selfishly may well have pursued. But standing back, is it just plain wrong?
The indiscretions involved merited suspensions which made Kieran Keatingâs remarks even more surprising that he felt Clareâs case âwas strong enough to see the lads exoneratedâ.
Rory Hayesâs immediate focus will be to combine his undoubted crowd-pleasing interventions with marking his man. Conceding 1-14 from play to his last two direct opponents (Dessie Hutchinson 1-6 and Seamus Flanagan 0-8) may well be the catalyst for Hayes acting as the most likely tracker of Rory O Connor.
I mean this in the most complimentary sense but thereâs a dangerous madness to Clare now. A backline mirroring its managersâ defiance, a speedy pack of double jobbers in Taylor, Kelly, Fitzgerald, and Malone which ensures any perceived defensive weakness is hidden, the sprightly and energetic impact of Rogers and Meehan, and crucially strong and influential messaging at all levels of commentary inside and outside the camp. It has all built this juggernaut.
However, I get the sense that Wexford fancy this one. Is there as much between Clare and Wexford as people think?
To win, Wexford must recreate the energy levels of the 2018 semi-final v Tipperary. The conventionality, in terms of tactical alignment, was fine to see off Kerry but the Model men must revisit the tactical approach they imposed on Kilkenny in Nowlan Park.
Match-ups will depend on the fitness of Shane Reck. He may well reprise his in-your-face role on Tony Kelly as per last year. If so, expect Kelly to adapt and open up valleys of space for others as he did when he had Seamus Kennedy for company against Tipperary.
With Diarmuid OâKeeffe sweeping, Wexford can attack from unpredictable and unexpected areas. Would Matthew OâHanlon enjoy a wrestle with Peter Duggan that would allow Liam Ryan to attack whilst tracking Davy Fitzgerald or Kelly.
The tempo of Eibhear Quilliganâs puckouts â getting them away in under 11 seconds â may not allow Wexford to press. Wexford must commit to running the ball and mixing it up when Chin and McDonald are inside.
Eganâs bullish public stance since the Westmeath draw has permeated its way to the players. Almost Sheedy-like, he declared after last weekâs game that âweâll be readyâ.
Just as admirable has been his realisation as to what suits this Wexford team best.
During their Walsh Cup annihilation by Dublin, I tuned to the genial Liam Spratt and Billy Byrne on South East Radio who both remarked that it was ârefreshingâ to see Wexford going out playing 15 on 15. I chuckled when their next musing was⌠âWexford, currently trailing by 12 pointsâ.
The hybrid model of defensive solidity and counter-attacking flair is something that Egan, Niall Corcoran and Willie Cleary know suits Wexford. Ensuring that their energy levels are on point will be the first prerequisite.
The protagonists, the creative talents like Kelly, Chin, Fitzgibbon and Mannion, work better with principles rather than rules. Much-maligned backroom teams facilitate these environments.
Harvard professor and creativity expert Professor Teresa Amabile surmises that âpeople will be most creative when they feel motivated primarily by the interest, satisfaction and challenge of the work itself and not by external pressuresâ.
Thankfully our players and management love their work. Cork and Clare will love it even more after tomorrow.